The Greatness of Wladimir Klitschko

[Boxing Goat]

prime chambers? Before or after he was comfortably beaten by Povetkin? Prime calvin brock. haha. The guy never had a prime!

All those bums are making up the best ever heavyweight?

What has the world come to...

It's cool , Wlad ended Brock's prime with one straight right hand and he put Chambers to sleep and walked all over Povetkin for 12 lopsided rounds.

Like it or not, that whole response was about fighters Wlad abused. Try something else.

[Holywarrior]

I speak the truth, you know nothing about it because you're an idiot who can't fathom it.

If where you are from sways your opinion, then what does that say about you?

Experts all know that if Klitschko was from this side he would already be a legend. Look no further than ESPN's expert for a reference.

The only expert who doesn't agree is Teddy Atlas and well, that speaks for itself.

There is nothing true about Wlad being a legend if he was American. YOU are the one letting where he is or isn't from sway your opinion. It's sad.

[MouthofGold]

Oh my god you're too dumb to be real.

chill out foolio we all boxing fans here everyone has an opinion, no need to get all pissy

[Boxing Goat]

You do realize I'm european right?

There's no way he would be number one, I don't care how many different countries he's fought in.

1 heavyweight has been top of the P4P lists in its history! That was Mike Tyson in 1989. That's it.

Mayweather is clearly a better fighter than Wlad and his resume craps all over Wlads as well.

Imagine Floyd fighting the #25 in his division

You're right, Floyd fights Ortiz and Guererro when he's the top P4P fighter in the world while Pacquiao fights guys like Margarito, JMM, Bradley and Cotto.

[M Bison]

I think that's pretty much the general consensus around here.

Coming from the guy who thinks Joe Frazier is an ATG who would simply walk into this era if he was in his prime and compete... lmao what a ******.
Nostalgiatards need to calm down here as I said this isn't star trek vs star wars!
We're talking about real life scenarios IF Joe Frazier fought in this current era of heavyweights he would of likely been knocked around by Valuev.

[Holywarrior]

Coming from the guy who thinks Joe Frazier is an ATG who would simply walk into this era if he was in his prime and compete... lmao what a ******.
Nostalgiatards need to calm down here as I said this isn't star trek vs star wars!
We're talking about real life scenarios IF Joe Frazier fought in this current era of heavyweights he would of likely been knocked around by Valuev.

Why couldn't he? You don't think he could beat Adamek, Pulev, Charr, Wach or a shot Briggs ?

[M Bison]

Why couldn't he? You don't think he could beat Adamek, Pulev, Charr, Wach or a shot Briggs ?

Adamek and Joe Frazier have alot in common they're more of lightheavy/cruiserweight at best but they're blown up to the heavyweight division whilst a great at lightheavy not a legit heavyweight.

Adamek has a better chin than that or Joe Frazier though and more grit and determination than to be toyed about like a little baby by George Foreman.

[LacedUp]

Coming from the guy who thinks Joe Frazier is an ATG who would simply walk into this era if he was in his prime and compete... lmao what a ******.
Nostalgiatards need to calm down here as I said this isn't star trek vs star wars!
We're talking about real life scenarios IF Joe Frazier fought in this current era of heavyweights he would of likely been knocked around by Valuev.

As if Joe Frazier couldn't compete in this era. Haha.

[LacedUp]

Adamek and Joe Frazier have alot in common they're more of lightheavy/cruiserweight at best but they're blown up to the heavyweight division whilst a great at lightheavy not a legit heavyweight.

Adamek has a better chin than that or Joe Frazier though and more grit and determination than to be toyed about like a little baby by George Foreman.

The same way prime Wlad was bounced around like a rag doll by a golf player?

[LacedUp]

You're right, Floyd fights Ortiz and Guererro when he's the top P4P fighter in the world while Pacquiao fights guys like Margarito, JMM, Bradley and Cotto.

As bad as Ortiz and Guerrero were they were still miles better than the turds Wlad have been fighting over the last 3 years.