The Floyd Mayweather Bias?

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I disagree. 1st of all Hatton didnt want to fight him yet no matter what the money was and 2nd Floyd is the big name. Where not talking about Europe because Floyd wont fight there. In the US no one cares about Hatton, yet and Floyd is the #4# king with the better resume.

If it was in Europe then it should be 50/50, and thats even cutting it close because even though Hatton will sell the fight, Floyd is still the king and is traveling to Hattons back yard to fight him which is a huge disadvantage. Its not like a foreign fighter coming to the US. They still would have some fans and the US fighter would have the crowd but it wouldnt be dominant. When you go over to fight Hatton it is like you against the whole country and everyone and there momma is on his side. No one wants to fight in a place like that and e****ally after they see him getting away with some dirty tactics

Hatton beat the man in Kostya Tszyu, not Floyd. Hatton would the mega draw in the UK and he hold two-thirds of the unified crown. What would ever entitle Floyd to a 50-50 split in the UK or anywhere else? This is the same situation with Wright and Taylor. The champion, gets the higher end of the purse, not the challeger.

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Mayweather is the best pound-for-pound in boxing today no doubt. But his gang-****er attitude, domestic abuse, well-documented estrangement from his father, ducking of certain fighters while making exagerrated claims, etc., put a lot of people off. He hasn't really made an honest attempt to clean up the fight picture in his various weights, which puts him in the same boat as a lot of other good fighters nowadays who are looking more at paydays and risks than honest fights.

Sooooo, I assume that you hold Arturo Gatti's domestic abuse, three DUI's, assault of a senior citizen, selection of unknown fighters, etc against him as well.

Floyd is class in the ring, Gatti is class in the ring. Floyd is trash outside the ring. Gatti is trash outside the ring.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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But Floyd still isn't a big draw, even in the States. He's a great fighter but has zero following beyond those that know the sport well. He only gets a crowd when people come to see his opponent, like in the Gatti fight.

Thats not really fair. I will say to you this, again if you say Floyd isnt that big of a draw in the US then what does that make Hatton because that guy wouldnt have any kind of draw.

Second, Gatti is only a big draw because he lives in a Boxing ICON like AC. If he lived in some other place then he wouldnt be a big draw and by that I mean that he always fights in AC. Its like Floyd said, if he fought in Grand Rapids every fight he could sell out also but Grand Rapids isnt as sexy as AC so it is better for Gatti

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I challenge you to give me the purse splits. Mayweather wanted a 60-40 split. Mayweather for as good as he is, cant sell out an arena in his own hometown. Hatton can sell out any arena in Europe, where Mayweather also refused to hold the fight.

Personally I think Mayweather will handle Hatton, but he needs to get a grip on his own worth if he plans to bait these guys into big bouts.

Hatton turned down the fights BEFORE MONEY WAS EVEN DISCUSSED.

I challenge YOU to find anywhere that Hatton's people say that Floyd outpriced himself and that is why they turned down the fight.

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Thats not really fair. I will say to you this, again if you say Floyd isnt that big of a draw in the US then what does that make Hatton because that guy wouldnt have any kind of draw.

Actually, that's not really true. Hatton has quite a good following in the US. The fights he had on ShoBox and Showtime gave him some really good exposure. While he's not a huge draw, he's more appealing to the casual fan because of his rough style of fighting.

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Hatton beat the man in Kostya Tszyu, not Floyd. Hatton would the mega draw in the UK and he hold two-thirds of the unified crown. What would ever entitle Floyd to a 50-50 split in the UK or anywhere else? This is the same situation with Wright and Taylor. The champion, gets the higher end of the purse, not the challeger.

You must didnt read this thread because this is about what you just said. I completely disagree with you. Hatton isnt the Champ, Hatton is a belt holder. Floyd is the man to beat. Who is the pound for pound king, and who has the better resume? Are you trying to tell me that if Floyd fought Baldomire then he should deserve more money?

Hatton can have all the titles he wants but until Floyd loses or Hatton gets more big wins then he will never be the man to beat over Floyd. He is the mega draw in the UK but that is outweighed by the fact that he is the mega draw because its his country which automatically puts his opponent at a huge disadvantage so no one like Floyd will fight him at his own Country in hiw own Arena and for less money then a guy who isnt rated as high as him on the pound for pound list. Floyd would be ****** to take less money to fight him in his backyard in his Country

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This only proves that the Hatton camp does not talk ****. I'm not saying PBF is ducking Hatton; but Hatton isn't ducking PBF. That fight will happen, barring an upset before then.

Kayjay... I have posted THREE CLEAR EXAMPLES of Hatton turning down a Mayweather fight.

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Actually, that's not really true. Hatton has quite a good following in the US. The fights he had on ShoBox and Showtime gave him some really good exposure. While he's not a huge draw, he's more appealing to the casual fan because of his rough style of fighting.

You assume that but you dont know that for sure. Alot of guys have a rough style but that doesnt mean they will sell. Mayorga wouldnt sell by himself. Until he fights in the US then we wont know his draw but it definatly wont be big against a guy like Baldomire unless the whole Country comes with him

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Kayjay... I have posted THREE CLEAR EXAMPLES of Hatton turning down a Mayweather fight.

Here is some proof for you...NOT from mayweather's mouth:

NUMBER ONE:

http://www.secondsout.com/UK/news.cfm?ccs=228&cs=18347

Hatton said: "There'll be more pressure to fight Mayweather now from the Americans because, obviously, there's one less big fight out there for Floyd Mayweather now Zab Judah has lost. But a fight with Mayweather has always been very high up the agenda for us; but we still want one or two fights in America before we get to Mayweather. If anything, Judah's loss has make us even more attractive in the marketplace."

But Hatton believes his son needs the experience of fighting abroad before he takes on the super-talented three-division champion Mayweather.

He said: "Richard needs the experience of training aboard for a fight for the very first time, getting used to that, he needs to have the experience of doing everything the American television and media will expect him to do, getting used to the different time zones, fighting in front of an American crowd - all that.

"And I don't want him to have to deal with all that for the very first time and fight someone like Mayweather as well. Richard isn't a big head, he's got no ego on him, and he will tell you himself that Mayweather is the biggest danger out there for him. That's why he wants to fight Mayweather most of all now he's already beaten Kostya Tszyu, who was the No.1 before Ricky beat him. So, when Richard does fight Mayweather I want Richard comfortable with where he's training and everything else that goes with having a big fight in America."

NUMBER TWO:

http://www.doghouseboxing.com/Duran/Coyote100705.htm

Coyote Duran: I can see how that would work in the end but you'd think now that Ricky Hatton would feel like he was wasting his time against a Carlos Maussa since he beat the real champion.

Frank Warren: I would've thought so. I mean, prior to that fight, I had offered him the (WBO titlist Miguel) Cotto fight. I had offered him (WBC titlist) Floyd Mayweather. Even Don King and I spoke about (Undisputed Welterweight Champion) Zab Judah. But when he went out to Atlantic City to see the Maussa fight, he wanted the Maussa fight. To me, it's a belt and I can understand, as a fighter, that he'd want that belt, but let's be honest about it. Kostya Tszyu vacated that title and Ricky Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu. So, on the same list as Joe Calzaghe, he was the #1 by Ring magazine. Who cares about that (WBA belt)?

Coyote Duran: Right. Hatton doesn't need Maussa's belt. He's the man.

Frank Warren: I agree with you! I agree, but I was willing to make the fight.


NUMBER THREE:

http://**********.com/pag/article6807.html

G. Leon said it.


I think the Folks at ********** are a bit more knowledgeable than you.

That is boxing tee ay el kay dot com.

So there you have it. 1) Ray Hatton, Ricky's father and manager admitted it, 2) Frank Warren, Hatton's promoters said it, 3) an independent boxing source said it.

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Look, I definatly dont hate on Hatton and there is nothing wrong with him saying that he needs a couple of fights in the US before he gets Floyd because that is understandable.

The problem I have is when people on here and in the media are saying that Floyd is moving up without fighting guys, like hes supposed to wait on guys or something? He asked them and they said "not now but later". The same for Cotto and others but people always act like Floyd just skipped these guys or ducked them. He also asked Freitas and others but no one wants to talk about that.

They see Floyd fight some guy who is somewhat lower then him and they rip him but they act like they didnt just see Floyd try to make these other big fights and guys turned him down. What do you want him to do?

Now he makes another big fight with a Pound for Pound guy in Zab and then Zab turns around and loses and Floyd gets ripped again.

If it was up to Floyd right now he would have fights with Hatton, Cotto, Freitas, and Zab without the Baldomire loss under his belt and people need to recognize this and stop ripping him all the time like hes ducking big fights