The Floyd Mayweather Bias?

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  • DLT
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    The Floyd Mayweather Bias?

    Why does everyone hate on this dude? His resume is one of the best out there and only out done by a few, and you know by time hes retired it probally wont be outdone by any. The guy has been a undefeated champ for 8 years, 18 fights, and is in his 4th weight class and will go higher before he retires. I used to say this when everyone used to sweat Hopkins record. I used to ask "why do people sweat Hopkins record when Floyd has had just as many straight wins, without a loss, and has done it in 4 weight classes"? Thats harder to me then what Hop did. I could see if Hop was in one of the best weight classes but Hopkins beat pretty much all bums in those fights. Even Tszyu when he was champ at 140. He fought some great fighters but most of them were bums. He didnt come along when guys like Floyd, Hatton, and Cotto were around and when he did fight one of those guys, look at what happened.

    Now back to Floyd. At the very young age of just 21, he won the title against the Legendary Genaro Hernandez. Meanwhile now days these young guys dont fight a great opponent until there like 26. He dominated Hernandez and came back the very next fight and dominated a prime Angel Manfredy. Look at the guys resume. He has fought and beat Hernandez, Manfredy, Rios, Jukko, Goya Vargas, the tough Augustus, fought and dominated the undefeated Chico at the age of 24 when no one wanted to see Chico, Carlos Hernandez, Jesus Chaves, Castillo twice, the very tough Sosa, N'Dou who alot of writers picked to beat him, Chop Chop, Gatti, and Sharmbe Mitchell. You tell me how many fighters have a better resume then that?

    He easily defeated all those guys except for the great Catillo. Then what did Floyd do? Did he run and hide? No, he came back like a true champ and give him a immediate rematch and left no doubt who was the best. Most of those guys went on to win titles after Floyd fought them. Now add to that list the great Zab Judah. Now Floyd is being ripped for this fight and I think thats wrong. The fight was made before Judah fought Baldomire. Zab was the champ, had just brutally KO Spinks, and was one of the best fighters in the game, and Floyd was going to fight him in just his 2nd fight at 147 but then Zab loses and its like Floyd loses alot of credibility for this. Like people fogot that the fight was already made and Floyd just signed on for one of the toughest fighters in boxing. Thats not fair.

    Then you got guys like Brian Kenney who try to discredit him and alot of you guys actually agree with him. He said "why dont you fight Baldomire because hes the real champ". Be for real guys. You guys would actually give Floyd more credit for beating Baldomire then Zab? If he fought Baldomire then everyone would be upset about that. Then Kenney says its a joke that its PPV and that hes fighting Zab after a loss. Then the idiot said that a couple of weeks before when Raheem was on there and Rahim said "why do you guys get upset at that but you love the fight between EM and Pac when Morales just lost to me and neither of them have a title". It is pure bias and hatred. No one said that about the Morales and Pac fight after Morales had not only lost but got humiliated by Raheem. Atleast the Zab fight was close an we all know that Zab is better then Baldy. We cant say that about Morales.

    Ive always said "how can you say which guy is the champ anyway"? People say why doesnt Floyd fight Margarito. What is so special about this guy? He is so overrated. Who has Margarito ever beat? He only beat a very green Cintron who hadnt beaten anyone and he just looked like complete garbage against Santos in a loss but everyone gives him so much respect. Santos cant even hit hard and he rocked Margarito. This guy isnt a champ. I mean will Kenney say that Gatti is the real champ if he fights and beats Baldomire, even knowing that Floyd just made Gatti look like Garbage? Its ******. Baldomire has a title but he is not the real champ and we all know that. Margarito has the title but he just loss to a average guy at best so how can you say that Floyd is not that champ at 147? If Floyd lost to Santos everyone would rip him.

    The bottom line is that its not Floyds fault that Zab lost. The fight was already made and Floyd was going to add to his great resume and show people that he can fight the big boys. Then Zab loses to a guy who we all know is not better then him and people act like Floyd is only fighting Zab because he just lost or why is he fighting him since he just lost, but again no one says anything to Pac for fighting Morales when he just got killed.

    It makes no sense and it is pure hate. If you ask me, I think Floyd is the champ at 147 and 140. You guys can sweat these wins all you want. You can sweat sorry guys like Tarver beating a old Jones or Hatton beating a old Tszyu. You guys can act like those guys werent old all you want. So you mean to tell me that Hatton is the 140 pound champ with only one good win in his 40 fights but Floyd who has a million good wins isnt the champ? People arent ******. Thats why on ESPN they named Floyd the best. If you ask the guys at 140 who is the #1 guy you want to beat to be called the best, they will all say Floyd and the same at 147. Give the man his respect. I would love to see Floyd fight Margarito after this fight. I would love for him to just dominate this guy and shut everyone up. If dude gets outboxed by Santos then what will Floyd do?

    Even in the 6 heads fight that he won by a early KO, you could still see that 6 heads was getting the best of him and Margarito looked like crap. Its just that 6 heads was shot and Margarito was going to stretch him but even in thos 2 rounds you could see that 6 heads was easily out fighting him.



    This next part will also be on post # 16 if you dont want to read it now but Ive added it on here because sometimes when theres alot of replies, your post can get lost in the sauce.

    Let me answer you guys questions on the Champ thing. Wether you want to consider him the champ or not is up for debate but that doesnt really matter. The problem I have is when guys like Brian Kenney and fans try to spin it as that the other guys are the ones to beat just because they have the belt. That is not true and you guys know that. You cant tell me that Baldomire is the guy to beat at 147 or even a Margarito who just lost even if it was at 154, or a Hatton who only has 1 big win. Thats my point on this Champ stuff. They try to act like those are the guys to beat.

    Floyd doesnt have to go after them, they have to come after him. Also guys have turned Mayweather down time and again. Even Hatton. Im not talking trash but even the biggest Hatton fans cant denie that he has turned down Mayweather fights and you know that Cottos people dont want him anywhere near Mayweather so how can you guys say that hes moving up without fighting the best? Just because Floyd hasnt had the top fights recently doesnt mean its all him. Other guys have legitimaly turned him down. Floyd probally does lie some but you cant say that those 2 didnt turn him down and he also tried to have the super fight with Zab but now he lost. Those are 3 big fights he really tried to make.

    Look, I definatly dont hate on Hatton and there is nothing wrong with him saying that he needs a couple of fights in the US before he gets Floyd because that is understandable.

    The problem I have is when people on here and in the media are saying that Floyd is moving up without fighting guys, like hes supposed to wait on guys or something? He asked them and they said "not now but later". The same for Cotto and others but people always act like Floyd just skipped these guys or ducked them. He also asked Freitas and others but no one wants to talk about that.

    They see Floyd fight some guy who is somewhat lower then him and they rip him but they act like they didnt just see Floyd try to make these other big fights and guys turned him down. What do you want him to do?

    Now he makes another big fight with a Pound for Pound guy in Zab and then Zab turns around and loses and Floyd gets ripped again.

    If it was up to Floyd right now he would have fights with Hatton, Cotto, Freitas, and Zab without the Baldomire loss under his belt and people need to recognize this and stop ripping him all the time like hes ducking big fights

    GIVE FLOYD HIS RESPECT
    Last edited by DLT; 02-20-2006, 05:16 PM.
  • 2_piece_combos
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    #2
    I'm sorry but did you say you think Floyd is the champ at 140 and 147?

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    • Parody
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      #3
      DLT I agree with your ass.

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      • BLOODSHED
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        #4
        Good post DLT. You have ***** ass posters who want pansies for champions like Klitschkos.

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        • Parody
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          #5
          Originally posted by .:BLOODSHED:.
          Good post DLT. You have ***** ass posters who want pansies for champions like Klitschkos.
          Hahahaha, thats actually true..

          only some of them though, some of the klitschko bitches are fine with me

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          • WindUpMerchant
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            #6
            You're right on some counts, and wrong on some others.

            Firstly, Mayweather is NOT the champ at 140 and he is NOT the champ at 147. Ricky Hatton is the champ and Carlos Baldomir is the champ. You can spin it however you want but both of these guys have true recognition by The Ring and that's quite good enough for me.

            By taking this Judah crap instead of an actual meaningful fight, it sure looks bad on Mayweather, which I could care less as he and Zab are of the same ilk in terms of personailty and maturity...though Zab tops in that department. Hatton, Cotto, Mosley, Margarito ALL would make more sense and before Zab, then Baldomir for sure.

            Also, your assertion that Floyd is some kind of 'superman' is just flat out wrong. Hatton would have murdered Gatti/Mitchell just as brutally as PBF did and had it happened, Hatton would suddenly look just as unbeatable. PBF's speed is unmatched but if Hatton has shown anything in the past few years its that his he adapts successfully and is disciplined enough to stick to a gameplan. Speed and flash isn't everything and Hatton stacks up in enough categories easily now that cannot be overlooked just because of some flash. It's just too bad Floyd's got an ego problem and no charisma. No one likes the brat.

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            • ReadyUp
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              #7
              You do have some points but my question to you is why does Floyd continue to move up in weight if he's not fighting the best guys in the weight class? All of his big name wins were at 135 and under.

              What did he do that makes him the champ at 140? Beat Gatti? That's not exactly cleaning out the division.

              And while I'd rather see him fight Judah than Baldomir, beating Judah isn't going to make him the champ at 147 either.

              And for your info, the fight was signed AFTER the Baldomir fight.

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              • Keleneki
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                #8
                I love watching Floyd Jr. fight. He is amazing. I wonder why he doesn't bite the bullet (regarding financial payoffs) and fight the lineal champions. I would assume that he would make boat loads of money in following fights if he did that. He is sort of reminding me of Roy Jr. these past few years with the way that he seemingly is avoiding the toughest matches. I sure hope he turns it around and fights the best so we can all say down the years that we saw one of the absolute best boxers ever, without much room for arguement.

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                • gattifan24
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                  #9
                  Mayweather has a good resume. However, to assert that it will be the best ever by the end I doubt. There are plenty of big fights that HE needs to make happen. Even if it means leaving more at the table than you wanted, I'd respect him much more if he did whatever it took to get fights made with Mosley, Margarito, Hatton, Cotto, etc. His legacy will be defined by what course of action he takes after April 8th

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                  • Floydmayweather
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                    #10
                    Mayweather will take out Hatton and DLH and retire as one of the top 5 fighters ever.

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