What does it say about Calzaghe that fans give him credit for Hopkins's achievements?

[Boxing Goat]

He didn't land anything. The only effective punches came from Hopkins.

I had Hopkins winning almost every round.

And you're delusional. Next.

[Boxing Goat]

No, Zslot Erdei was the lineal champion.

Uhm yea, I guess in this case it doesn't matter. He's a bum. Jones was the man and his reign followed toward the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight. It was for the title of who the real man was in the division. You know it, I know it.

[DARKSEID]

And you're delusional. Next.

A blind person calling me delusional doesn't really mean anything lol

If all you had to do to win a fight was go forward flailing your arms and get countered the entire time while landing nothing of your own and get destroyed on the inside by a vastly superior technical fighter, then Calzaghe is the GOAT.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Uhm yea, I guess in this case it doesn't matter. He's a bum. Jones was the man and his reign followed toward the Hopkins-Calzaghe fight. It was for the title of who the real man was in the division. You know it, I know it.

Dariusz Michaelcweski was the LHW champion. Jones didn't beat him so he didn't become the man.

[Boxing Goat]

Dariusz Michaelcweski was the LHW champion. Jones didn't beat him so he didn't become the man.

Holding all the other titles including Ring and being the bread winner in the divison made him the man and he was the man, whether you like it or not. Period.

[BattlingNelson]

Show you what? The Scoring Criteria of Boxing? Do you not know it?

http://coxscorner.tripod.com/scoring.htm

There's Monte Cox's write up on it and the External Link from Boxrec's scoring page.

Effective Aggression
Clean punches
Ring Generalship
Defense

4 scoring criteria.

Not simply aggression. That would be pretty ****** if simply moving forwards would be a scoring criteria.

Ah. Monte Cox. A great historian. Judge? Not really.

So if you have two guys in the ring. Boxer A moves forward and misses everything while the fighter B does nothing but going backwards. Then I suppose you'd score the round a draw? I wouldn't.

[Boxing Goat]

Dariusz Michaelcweski was the LHW champion. Jones didn't beat him so he didn't become the man.

He pulverized Gonzalez who went on to lopsidedly own DM so it's kind of a moot point. It wasn't official but Jones was the man.

[IronDanHamza]

Ah. Monte Cox. A great historian. Judge? Not really.

So if you have two guys in the ring. Boxer A moves forward and misses everything while the fighter B does nothing but going backwards. Then I suppose you'd score the round a draw? I wouldn't.

That's his write up on it. That's the official criteria what's he's talking about. Go and look up what the official scoring criteria for Boxing is. It's not "aggression".

If there's a round where a total of 0 punches are landed then that's a pretty clear even round. As clear of an example of an even round you could possibly get. So yes and I'd imagine most judges would aswell.

[BattlingNelson]

That's his write up on it. That's the official criteria what's he's talking about. Go and look up what the official scoring criteria for Boxing is. It's not "aggression".

If there's a round where a total of 0 punches are landed then that's a pretty clear even round. As clear of an example of an even round you could possibly get. So yes and I'd imagine most judges would aswell.

Ok. I just googled it and generally the phrase 'effective' is put in front of aggression. So basically I stand corrected, even though I found no definete official scoring manual.

[IronDanHamza]

Ok. I just googled it and generally the phrase 'effective' is put in front of aggression. So basically I stand corrected, even though I found no definete official scoring manual.

Generally? It is every time. That's is the criteria; "Effective Aggression". Not "Aggression".

Have you not watched a HBO broadcasted fight on Youtube?

Before every fight Harold Lederman gives a little run through of the scoring criteria I.e Effective Aggression, Clean Punching, Ring Generalship and Defense.