Biggest "could've beens" in this era?

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  • Firefist
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    #41
    Despite all that he's accomplished I feel that Sergio Martinez could have done more if he started at an earlier age. He didn't start boxing until 20 and went pro at 22 after a years lay off due to a broken hand. I wouldn't say he hit his prime until his body started deteriorating.

    People forget that he's a small middleweight that belongs at 154. He said it himself that he only moved up because no one would give him big fights. I'd imagine age was the main factor here. Who do you pick besides Floyd to beat him at this weight?

    Arum said it himself that he could have been a household name and a star if he had better management.

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    • Nooblet
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      #42
      this guy is a candidate for a could have been unless and hopefully he gets the recognition he deserves for being the master of the art of boxing. it's no other than Guillermo Rigondeaux. just watching this guy is ****ing fantastic. he boxes gracefully and beautifully but the guy can't get fights and he can't sell shyt because casual fans wants to see a brawl. it's just terrible. i mean come on Paulie Malignaggi gets more recognition than him for **** sake!

      another could have been is the guy Rigondeaux beat who is Donaire. yeah yeah he knocked unknown midgets but after his biggest knockout in Montiel he just looked like a fool swinging crazy going for the knockout but couldn't pull it on some other unknown midgets. who is he fighting now again? and after that who else? this guy is going to be a house husband for sure and his Master Rachel will be sucking another guys **** somewhere and he'd be the last one to know it before he reaches 40.

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      • TGD
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        #43
        Always thought Eddie Chambers could have achieved more.

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        • Mitchell Kane
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          #44
          Originally posted by FrankieClutch
          Yeah, Judah could've been something special
          In Max Kellerman's mind, at least.

          I hope Max was getting paid for all that shilling he was doing.

          "Pernell Whitaker with power".

          That should be engraved on his tombstone.

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          • Build That Wall
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            #45
            Seth Mitchell

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            • DoubleLeftH00k
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              #46
              Pirog.....

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              • Richard Wadd
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                #47
                Edwin Valero- jury was out on how good he actually was at the time of the tragedy. He beat some pretty good fighters but no one to suggest he would be a future great. Some people feel that his power wasn't the same as he was moving up in weight, but he also showed more skills and variety, he was not merely some wild ****er. He beat Demarco with that awful cut. My guess is that he would have fallen into the "good to very good" category.

                Zab Judah- solid amateur background, some of the fastest hands ever, good power. Good jab (ask Chop Chop), great left uppercut and straight left, right hook wasn't bad, showed some good bodypunching from time to time (Ward fight). Tszyu must have messed him up mentally. Zab APPEARED to be a confident fighter with heart before that. Rose from knockdowns to stop Millett and Bergman, recovered from the dreaded Micky Ward left hook to the liver to dominate the rest of the fight. His fluidity was good. Compare him to two other guys who have been named, both of whom had speed. Amir Khan is fast but not fluid. He's all over the place, spastic. Sometimes when he's moving around the ring, he just looks downright clumsy. Jermain Taylor had good speed and was a track star in HS, but he seemed to lack a certain fluidity and coordination that elite fighters have.

                Judah then showed what a headcase he was/became. I think he trained hard for the big fights, he may have not do so which cost him against Baldomir (Zab was not very good at making his headbutts look inadvertant) and almost did against Pineda. No shame in getting your ass kicked by Mayweather, but showed once again what he is made out of inside. Throws a vicious low blow, an uppercut to the nuts, the worst type of LB, then he follows it up with a rabbit punch, the most dangerous blow. Does nothing when Roger enters the ring. Then he sees his dad, and flexes and starts acting tough, and throws a punch.

                Showed where his head and confidence level were at in the first round against Cotto. Lands a very good shot and is winning the round. Gets hit with a borderline low blow, maybe a tad low, and flops to the floor like he's been shot. The 3rd round low blow was very vicious, this one was borderline and theatrical. He did this in the first round when he was doing very well.

                Quits against Clottey, even the doctor said Judah was purposely giving the wrong answers so he could get out of the fight. Quits again, against Khan, trying to oversell a borderline punch.

                Definitely not what I expected from him when I first started watching him in 99-00.

                Ricardo Williams: well who knows actually what kind of pro he would be, but he was talented and it sure beats rotting away in a prison cell

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                • soul_survivor
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by DoubleLeftH00k
                  Pirog.....
                  This is what I was going to post. Easily the most let down I've been, sadly he was hit by so many injuries, he could have been a good middleweight.

                  Berto is another one, he looked so promising but then hit the ceiling. Some fighters just don't have that something extra.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #49
                    Pirog is definitely an interesting mention, glad someone did. Injuries crippled that poor guy's career.

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                    • MrRolltide91
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                      #50
                      zab judah....

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