100-0 split, no PPV, plus no Mommy D by ringside.
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Would Floyd accept a 55-45 split for Pac?
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Originally posted by BIG GUNZ View Post60/40 or 65/35 I think would be reasonable at this point in time. He'd have to give Pacquiao some % of the PPV as well.
But is it then equal to say that Floyd is ducking if he demands a bigger slice?
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Don't give a **** what these two make on the fight. None of this **** has any affect on me or anyone else here.
I just wanna see them fight.
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Depends on Pac's recent PPV's, which have been poor and we don't know how Pac-Bradley II did, which I would guess are poor as well. In 2010 when Pac was doing 1mill per fight, Floyd agreed to 50-50, but now that Pac fell to like 500k ballpark, 55-45 would be an automatic "no". Even 60-40 would probably sound absurd to Floyd. If Pac wants to ask for 55-45 he has to fight more known fighters, like Canelo, Cotto at 150-154, and Marquez.
Fighting Bradley, Rios, Alvarado, Vargas, Khabib won't get Pac even at the 800k level, and therefore won't do him any favors at the negotiating table with some one like Floyd who just did 2.2million in one night, 850k with Guerrero and 1.5mill with Cotto.
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostI'd say 65/35 as well. That split is of everything. PPV, gate, worldwide television ie the lot.
But is it then equal to say that Floyd is ducking if he demands a bigger slice?
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Originally posted by -Kev- View PostDepends on Pac's recent PPV's, which have been poor and we don't know how Pac-Bradley II did, which I would guess are poor as well. In 2010 when Pac was doing 1mill per fight, Floyd agreed to 50-50, but now that Pac fell to like 500k ballpark, 55-45 would be an automatic "no". Even 60-40 would probably sound absurd to Floyd. If Pac wants to ask for 55-45 he has to fight more known fighters, like Canelo, Cotto at 150-154, and Marquez.
Fighting Bradley, Rios, Alvarado, Vargas, Khabib won't get Pac even at the 800k level, and therefore won't do him any favors at the negotiating table with some one like Floyd who just did 2.2million in one night, 850k with Guerrero and 1.5mill with Cotto.
i can remember last time mayweather responded in a pretty serious way to a future pacman fight. around the time of the rios fight. He did stress that he wanted manny to being serious proof/papers with him showing how many PPV buys pacman made. This makes me believe FMJ is gonna be about the numbers and facts if it ever comes to negotiating a fight.
lets say FMJ makes an average of 1.200.000 buys
and pac does an average of 300.000 buys
FMJ has a strong case that he atleast deserves 4 times what pacman deserves. What do y'all think about this logic? 80-20 for FMJ
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Originally posted by BIGBOXINGFAN View PostDo you know why fighters are guaranteed a certain amount?
It's all based on projections.
Floyd was guaranteed 41.5 against Canelo because they projected the fight could do 1.5 or so.
The 40 million offer to Pac was based off of a projection. PPV money is in that offer.
In that case.....they would do what Bob is doing. Offer 6 million + PPV on the back end.
It's called a buyout.
40 million was a buyout offer.
Now if you do the math you would know that a 40 million offer for a fight which was projected to sell 2 million or so PPV's was fair.
I just don't see where people are getting this 100 million per fighter.
that money is not there and was never there. Not even at the fights peak.
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostForget legacy. Mayweather would rather lose out on tens of millions of dollars just because he doesn't want to give Bob Arum a cut?
Yeah ok....do people still buy this ****?
May-July 2009***8212;Sides Argue over 60-40 or 50-50 Split
Mayweather initially offered Pacquiao a 60-40 split, which Arum and Roach both scoffed at. Arum even went as far as to say that Mayweather may not even get a 50-50 split.
Per James Slater of ******** Boxing, Arum said:
"You can tell Floyd Mayweather that Bob Arum says he's delusional,"
Back then, Arum had the leverage to turned down 60-40 and even probably wanted a bigger split for his fighter than just 50%. Arum hasn't changed his stance one bit, and i wouldn't be surprised if he turns down a 60/40 split offer from Floyd now as he did when had the leverage after Floyd came out of retirement even though they had similar PPV buys back then, but the tables have turned now.Last edited by Carpe Diem; 04-16-2014, 05:11 PM.
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