Comments Thread For: Pac's Old Trainer: Not The Same Manny of 3-4 Years Ago

[chamellion]

Pac has a strong head in fact before he fell even from a jab! http://moevideo.net/video/02089.002f...4c4e452a580579

[blacraven]

I just remember this article few weeks ago where Roach admitted Ariza was "shady" giving mystery drink to Manny for 4 years http://www.fighthype.com/news/article15910.html
and another article about reviving Manny drug issues http://digitaljournal.com/sports/roa...article/365438
If the allegations are true then it could cost MP his place at the hall of fame. Remembering the MLB (Canseco, Sosa, McGuire destroying records) and/or also Lance Armstrong (many Tour of France) where the truth finally emerged.

It really doesn't get any clearer than what Freddie Roach said.
The writing is clearly on the wall.
It's already gift wrapped with a bow on top.


I said it before and i'll say it again...

If the shoe was on the other foot...
If Floyd negotiated: The Ring Size, Glove Size, 10 million per Lb over weight, 50/50 split, etc...

And Pac agreed to all those demands with no problem,
and then said: "My only demand, is for BOTH fighters to take Random Blood and Urine PED tests".

And Floyd said NO in any way... Whether it be "let's have them on a schedule", "let's only do urine", "let me get a 24 day cut off window", "I feel weak when I give blood" etc....

And then...

Not appear to have the same Power in the fights following the fights after the PED accusations.

And then...

His trainer Uncle Roger come out and say: "His strength and conditioning coach was giving him some secretive supplements while training, and even when I asked his strength and conditioning coach whats in the stuff you give him because I dont want to get in trouble and if something happens it's gonna get blamed on me".
And the S&C coach declines to tell him, The Head Coach, what he's giving his fighter, and still keeps it a secret.

And...
For Roger to also say that , "His S&C coach is shady and I dont trust him".

And...... Suspect that he DOES give fighters PEDs..........


Man,
It would be a never ending sh^t storm about how much of a cheat that Floyd is.

Fact:
These guys would literally work overtime at their jobs,
go get bank loans and put all their money together to purchase T.V. Commercial time and make a commercial that will run for years about how Floyd is a cheat
and have snippets of what Uncle Roger said edited in.
They'll probably even chip in to hire James Cameron or Quinton Tarrentino to direct it.
They'll probably win an Emmy for their awesome documentary and journalist skills.
They'll all be in the audience with suit and ties on.
Pacboy will probably accept the award and while weeping uncontrollably, he'll thank his god manny and give thanks to all the fellow Tards of boxingscene.

[koboy]

I just remember this article few weeks ago where Roach admitted Ariza was "shady" giving mystery drink to Manny for 4 years http://www.fighthype.com/news/article15910.html
and another article about reviving Manny drug issues http://digitaljournal.com/sports/roa...article/365438
If the allegations are true then it could cost MP his place at the hall of fame. Remembering the MLB (Canseco, Sosa, McGuire destroying records) and/or also Lance Armstrong (many Tour of France) where the truth finally emerged.

You forgot this one too! This is the definitive! No question!

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/20...f-taking-peds/

[blacraven]

You forgot this one too! This is the definitive! No question!

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/20...f-taking-peds/

Let's be real man.
If someone is doing something illegal, they don't suggest that the cops randomly patrol where they are.
They keep things on the down low.

No one was even thinking about PEDs on that level until Floyd said f^ck it, these guys are cheating and we need to clean up the sport.
He's been doing the hard work his whole life, and growing up and living his life in the gym environment he knows whats going on.

If a person was dirty they wouldn't say anything about PEDs.
Or
They would say... "I know im clean, I don't have to test"....yeah right
And the guys fan base is like "yeah he doesn't have to test, its the other guy who brought the whole testing issue up who's guilty..." Yeah right

[koboy]

Let's be real man.
If someone is doing something illegal, they don't suggest that the cops randomly patrol where they are.
They keep things on the down low.

No one was even thinking about PEDs on that level until Floyd said f^ck it, these guys are cheating and we need to clean up the sport.
He's been doing the hard work his whole life, and growing up and living his life in the gym environment he knows whats going on.

If a person was dirty they wouldn't say anything about PEDs.
Or
They would say... "I know im clean, I don't have to test"....yeah right
And the guys fan base is like "yeah he doesn't have to test, its the other guy who brought the whole testing issue up who's guilty..." Yeah right

The difference between you and me is that you're just a Floyd fan, while I'm a fan of both.

Floyd for his talent, intelligence and gift and Manny for his warrior spirit, speed and tenacity.

I never thought for a second that either Manny or Floyd were on PEDs. Never. I just wanted them to fight for the good of the sport. Number 1 vs Number 2.

But being a fan of boxing for more than four decades, I understand how the boxing world operates and accept that most boxers who have reached the level that Floyd and Manny have achieved have earned the right to cherrypick. It's just the business. Less risk, high reward.

I think they both started to be the best they could ever be and became the best they could ever be and as much as I hate to say it, are now entitled to some cherrypicking. My admiration for both have now waned because of it.

The question I want you to answer is who has cherrypicked more in their careers between the two? Who has admitted to staying the safest? And who has had more excuses? These are all relevant as to why both have not fought each other after all these years.

Let me know when you find the answer to that. It should be clear as day. There's even a video on it on the interwebs.

While Manny works at the orchards, Floyd actually owns the land.