Would Marquez have beaten everyone Pacquiao has beat?

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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #21
    Originally posted by bigcursedawg
    Who cares? Manny couldn't beat JMM, at 126, 130, 147, or any weight for that matter. IMO a lot of those guy are to big for Marquez and would probably beat him and just because Many was able to beat them doesn't erase the fact that JMM beat Manny clearly 3 times.
    he beat pac clearly once. the ko.

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    • DoktorSleepless
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      #22
      I don't think Marquez would have been able to beat the bigger guys (weight/size-wise) Manny fought at 147. Not even sure he could beat someone like Clottey.

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      • soul_survivor
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        #23
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        jmm ducked morales after jmm ducked pac rematch

        pac took the morales fight and jmm fought john
        John won their fight pretty clearly....yet JMM even moans about that one

        Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
        I don't think Marquez would have been able to beat the bigger guys (weight/size-wise) Manny fought at 147. Not even sure he could beat someone like Clottey.
        Clottey may be a winnable fight but the others, just no.

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        • DonSimon87
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          #24
          I don't think Marquez would be able to beat Bradley. Just a hunch.

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          • bopbopbbe
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            #25
            No way marquez beats margarito or clottey. I'd give jmm a better chance against cotto at 147 than against clottey. It's just a terrible terrible style matchup for jmm.

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            • From Russia
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              #26
              Styles makes fights, but Pac, in terms of hand- footspeed and stamina is such a freak, that he will be a tough fight for everybody. Marquez already lost to Bradley, i see Margarito giving him problems since Marquez punch output and footspeed arent great. I would also favor Cotto and Oscar

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              • Strategic1
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                #27
                Im not even sure JMM can beat Alvarado.

                JMM will have a hard time beating legit contenders at 140lbs and above...Only guy he has a shot against is PAC and it'd always be a 50/50 fight.

                JMM loses his speed at 140 and above ...although he can and will be competitive always due to his ring IQ and experience.

                He can beat Alvarado and possibly Provodnikov if he can control distance and keep Provo off him with power counters.
                Last edited by Strategic1; 04-14-2014, 10:50 AM.

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                • samouraï
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                  #28
                  No. Marquez would lose to several of them quite frankly.

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                  • El Malo.
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                    No,, jmm would lose to a prime barrera that manny fought,,

                    Morales would be a tough out..

                    JMM already lost to bradley

                    Cotto would crush jmm

                    Margs might even run over jmm....


                    Styles make fights, and jmm doesnt have the skillset to deal with much bigger fighters like manny has
                    He more than has the skill sets to beat this guys. Physically his body just doesn't hold up at the higher weights like Manny does. If his body would hold up at this weight he would have a great chance to compete and beat those fighters.

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                    • TintaBoricua
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                      #30
                      I would've loved to see the fantasy match-up between Marquez and Margarito. A lot of people say that he would've just ran over JMM like a tank going over a car but I think Margarito would've eaten a lot of shots in the process.

                      It'd be like a slower-paced, but more brutal version of Márquez-Díaz 1. And how does JMM get stopped? JMM has never looked fatigued or like he's on the verge of quitting in a fight. :/

                      My take (assuming he fights Pacquiao's versions):

                      Márquez UD De la Hoya
                      Márquez TKO11 Hatton
                      Cotto UD Márquez
                      Márquez MDClottey (boring fight, harder to score...probably akin to Winky-Hopkins)

                      Márquez UD Margarito (somewhere along the lines 115-113)
                      Márquez UD Mosley
                      Márquez UD Ríos
                      Bradley SD Márquez

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