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I know p4p is just an opinion but how can someone put manny on #7 #8 or even at #5! that's absurd!!!!!
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Not exactly P4P? In recent memory I will say how is Pacquiao in the top 3 when his recent performances has been knocked out cold, Brandon Rios a made to order guy coming off a lost, and a ******ed Bradley winging shots that were hitting but luckily for PAC he went dumb and threw away his whole strategy tht Pacquiao didn't know how to deal with. I seen you guys given justification for his position by who he fought, not his skills at this point. Yet you are saying Bernard Hopkins resume isn't worthy? Let alone his skill.
Bernard "lost" to Chad in my opinion could had went either way and I have Hopkins with a win. What's funny is how people had PAC at #7 P4P post his knockout loss, moved him to #5 for an unranked jr. Welter, and #3 or #2 despite the ****ty performance.. Yet a close lost where all B-Hop losses are absolutely close he doesn't deserve to be P4P and he is knocked off completely when the fight could had been scored for him. Dawson champion,Karo Murat top ranked light heavy contender and Tavoris Cloud a champion. Yet his resume is not better than PAC? OkComment
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Wow, you're actually trying to argue that Murat and Cloud are better than Bradley twice and Rios. Rios is a hell of a lot better than Cloud ever was, and who the **** is Murat? And LMAO at Hopkins beating Dawson.
I don't know who you're trying to fool with the Locche avatar, but it's not working.Comment
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Floyd can still have the top spot, which is all that really matters
Bradley never shoulda been on the list to begin with
disappointed in Ward, had him #1 at one point, what a waste
Wlad's been running HW for 9 yrs now, he's a top guy
Froch has an exemplary resume, he's earned a spot
piss drinker and Pac might as well retire
Martinez is an overrated twat and lost to Murray
GGG hasn't done enough to be on the list yet
Rigo beat Nonito and he's boring as hell, fuck himComment
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Smh.....
Smh. What is wrong with you, man? Bradley was gassed by the 7th round. WHY??? Because Manny is an all-time great who wasn't supposed to win on Saturday. He was supposed to be finished. He is smarter in the ring and relying more on his technique, defense, and ring IQ nowadays. Bradley is fast and he is strong-willed; tough as nails. He is a beast BUT Manny is a special fighter and highly skilled. He's a veteran now and he fights like it. The last two performances puts him back in the top 3 P4P EASILY.Comment
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It's seems selective memory is the running trend on here. I don't quite understand it.Wow, you're actually trying to argue that Murat and Cloud are better than Bradley twice and Rios. Rios is a hell of a lot better than Cloud ever was, and who the **** is Murat? And LMAO at Hopkins beating Dawson.
I don't know who you're trying to fool with the Locche avatar, but it's not working.
Someone before the Murat said or Cloud fight (Can't recall which) "I see quite a lot are picking Hopkins, maybe that's just so if he finally loses they can criticize him" He had literally just lost to Dawson and quit against Dawson the fight before.
Hopkins "The risk taker"
Murat, Cloud, Dawson x2, Pascal x2, Shot Roy Jones.
People act like this is murderers row or something.Comment
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Because.........
Because he is a hero and Legend to so many people. Hey, when odds are being determined, most of the time people go with their hearts, not their heads. That is why he was the favorite.Comment
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I couldn't decide between 3 and 4, but any lower is silly. Two is even arguable though I think his KO loss is still too recent and he just looks off his game to back up with Floyd. He just beat one of the best young champs in the game, who himself was undefeated (at least officially anyway) and a top P4P entrant. Apart from his still recent KO loss, he's beaten two young champs, Bradley at the very top of his game coming off his own P4P, greatest career win.
He didn't look great, but he won the fight and that's what no one else has been able to do against Bradley yet and that's all that counts. Like it or not, this is one of the best wins in boxing right now. Bradley was a proven, undefeated, prime, bigger, younger, two division champion.
Ward is pissing about thinking he deserves more and is just wasting away his career. He doesn't even deserve top five anymore.
Klitschko simply doesn't have the talent level of opposition to get any higher than around 7-10 for me. Dominating is one thing, and to do it as long as he has is great on its own, but doing against the absolute fluff that he has to face fight after fight holds him back greatly, particularly when the talent levels in the lower divisions are so high comparatively.
Marquez is, for me at least, done as a top P4P fighter. He looked old in his last fights. He's looked old, slow and not his great self for years now, and while he's not shot in the classic boxing sense, he's certainly past it.
Rigo is getting right up there, but again, his ****head, disgracefully corrupt POS scum of a promoter is not just promoting him badly, he's actively trying to stop him from getting further on in his career. It's one of the most disgraceful acts of pettiness and just miserable ****headedness I've ever seen in my life of watching boxing so far. I actually look forward to when Arum dies. I say that with all sincerity. He's ruining someone's incredibly talented life and career through his own petty bull**** and corruption because he thought Rigo wasn't as good as he is, so he's now making him pay dearly for being a great boxer.Comment
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Huh? WTF are you talking about? He was the favourite because he easily won their last fight, and still looked good enough for everyone to assume that he would do the same, thus favourite.
Neither had dramatically altered their style, or looked much better or much worse for anyone to think it would go any differently than the first fight.Comment
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