Good on ESPN for showing this. Have no idea about the challenger. Based on his lack of buzz, he's another no hoper? Whatever. Glad somebody is gonna' show the HW championship in the US. I guess...
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Alex Leapai vs. Wladimir Klitschko
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Lennox Lewis - ATG but I already said that
(big gap here)
Holyfield & Tyson - too small for modern HW division
Foreman - 48 years old in 1997
(another big gap)
Tua - one-dimensional brawler
Ike - one-dimensional brawler
Golata & Bowe - 2 big clumsy oafs
David Izon - who?
Buster Douglass - lol
Rahman - KO'd by wlad
Byrd - KO'd by wlad
Briggs - hospitalized by Vitali
what point where you trying to make again? Povetkin looks awesome compared to that list. Only 3 of those (on top) would have given him any trouble.Last edited by Fr3$h; 04-25-2014, 01:12 AM.
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Originally posted by Lebanon View PostLennox Lewis - ATG but I already said that
(big gap here)
Holyfield & Tyson - too small for modern HW division
Foreman - 48 years old in 1997
(another big gap)
Tua - one-dimensional brawler
Ike - one-dimensional brawler
Golata & Bowe - 2 big clumsy oafs
David Izon - who?
Buster Douglass - lol
Rahman - KO'd by wlad
Byrd - KO'd by wlad
Briggs - hospitalized by Vitali
what point where you trying to make again? Povetkin looks awesome compared to that list
You saying the Klitschko's KO'd them like it's relevant.They were shot to **** by then. Povetkin wouldn't even be talked about in the 90's he'd be ranked 20+.
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Ike-Tua was widely praised as a throwback to the "golden days" by drunks who think footwork is "for sissies". You guys need to learn the difference between fun/entertaining and actually skilled.
Povetkin isn't that big either so prime Tyson and Holyfield could beat him but they wouldn't be much of a threat to the Klitschkos.
Prime Foreman would have had a great style to beat Wlad but he was an old geezer taking advantage of the competition in the '90s.Last edited by Fr3$h; 04-25-2014, 01:33 AM.
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Originally posted by Lebanon View PostLennox Lewis - ATG but I already said that
(big gap here)
Holyfield & Tyson - too small for modern HW division
Foreman - 48 years old in 1997
(another big gap)
Tua - one-dimensional brawler
Ike - one-dimensional brawler
Golata & Bowe - 2 big clumsy oafs
David Izon - who?
Buster Douglass - lol
Rahman - KO'd by wlad
Byrd - KO'd by wlad
Briggs - hospitalized by Vitali
what point where you trying to make again? Povetkin looks awesome compared to that list. Only 3 of those (on top) would have given him any trouble.
For one quick example off the top of my head. Lamont Brewster is smaller than Holyfield and weighs about the same. He knocked Wlad out, so saying Holyfield is too small is beyond idiotic. The guy you say is too big for Holyfield got beaten by someone smaller. Proven wrong.
Lennox Lewis was beaten by two guys of the same size or smaller than Holyfield. Rahman and McCall. Proven wrong. It always gets said that a great fighter makes all opponents look bad, which is the excuse used for fighting bad opponents. The problem with that argument is that when those supposedly good opponents don't do anything good outside of their fight against the top guy, it proves they're not good. People used to say that about Calzaghe, but he fought some guys that proved themselves to be great outside of the fight with him. Roy Jones also. Everyone used to say he's just fighting bums, but some of those guys proved themselves great outside of the jones fight. That's how you tell he fought good opponents. When they don't do anything though. It's shows they are ****.
Was Haye also too small for today's modern heavyweight division? Considering he's beaten everyone he's faced, including the biggest, heaviest ever heavyweight to become a champion himself, except for Wlad, it's a pretty ****ing ****** conclusion to come to. Considering one of the guys you say is too small also should have beaten the tallest, heaviest boxing champ ever...it's just an inane, banal comment to make which has been proven wrong time and time again in the modern heavyweight division.
Only 3 of those would have troubled Povetkin, the guy that should have lost to Huck? Ok, no point bothering with such an imbecile any more.
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What gets me though is that whenever someone talks about the division as not being that good, people take it as a knock on Wlad.
It does not change how good Wlad is.
It might change how high he is eventually thought of in an historical sense, but probably not much. He is clearly a heavyweight ATG already.
But it's like the middleweight division today. Saying the division overall is lacking in talent isn't a knock on the couple of good fighters in it. GGG and Martinez are great fighters, but the majority of the division, guys like Quillin, Hassan Jikam, Stevens, Chavez Jr etc, are just not that good. It doesn't change how good GGG and Martinez are there though.
It's unfortunate that they won't have any great fighters to beat themselves, but that's for history to talk and debate in a different topic, and doesn't change the fact that it's just unfortunately lacking in talent currently.
If people take that as some kind of knock on the top guy, that's their own problem.
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