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  • #71
    Originally posted by Freedom2014
    This is one fight I want to have over with for Wlad.

    I just hope he still has time to fight twice more this year. There's plenty of potential opponents for the rest of the year: Pulev, Arreola if he beats Stiverne, and the winner of Fury-Chisora.

    Hopefully he can get his IBF mandatory Pulev out of the way in the summer. If Stiverne wins, there will be no WBC unification because of Don King. So, Wladimir can go on to fight the winner of Chisora-Fury in late November or December.

    Pulev has earned his shot and the winner of Chisora-Fury will have done the same.
    I believe both Stiverne/Arreola and even Wilder would duck Klitschko if they get the WBC belt.

    The only fighters, apart from Klitschko, that are ready to fight anybody are Chisora, Tony THompson and Povetkin.

    I also hope to see Povetkin fight a top 10 contender in june. To me, he is Wladimir's biggest threat ( eventhough he wouldn't stand a chance against Vitali in my opinion).

    Unfortunately, Fury is a loudmouth. His team already ducked Wladimir in 2013. They're all talk but still haven't walked the walk...

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    • #72
      Wlad vs who???

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
        As can be said with so many of the opponents that the champs of previous eras fought. Wlad's no different, no need to hate on him because of that. You're simply just grasping at straws, delusional hater. Get a life.
        You dumb ****ing ****. I'm not hating on Wlad you obsessed little prick. You see something written about some heavyweight contenders and immediately jump to conclusions that have no bearing on what I said.

        First off, I was talking about the contenders, not Wlad. Wlad is doing what he's supposed to be doing and that is destroying everyone he fights, good or bad.

        Second, I was talking about the contenders that might be good one day, and saying that they are still too early in their careers to be fighting someone as good as Wlad. This era has no middle ground. It's the top guys, then a sudden drop down to the resume building fodder. What that means, for a thick prick like you, is that many of the contenders that could be good fight bad fighters then when they do step up or get a title shot it's often a huge leap up to a HOF level fighter like Wlad and usually much too soon. There seems to be a few good guys that are coming through, but they need to get tested against better fighters before taking the leap against someone great like Wlad. You just see someone disagree and immediately you start your little girl squeal "hater! Racist! Just hating on white fighters!" Blah blah blah.

        Just like it took Wlad a few losses throughout his career to keep getting better up to a point that he's now at his best (though a little over the hill now), when you jump in against the top without having been through proper adversity and having all of your skills tested, maybe even losing a couple of times, you rarely stand a chance unless you're a special fighter and there are no special fighters at heavy apart from Wlad himself.

        It's very typical of you though. You jump to a defensive assumption that I'm hating on Wlad, when I'm not even talking about him. You made that connection, not me. Wlad is going to kick this guys ass easy, because this guy is ****, but you take me saying that as some kind of bizarre 'hate' and talking about the contenders and the lack of a middle ground as some form of, let me guess, racist Wlad hate. You have a sad little one track mind.

        Anyway, for the non ******ed folk here that have some comprehension skills, it'll be great to see some of the young guys that are slowly coming up fight Wlad, but as I tried to explain to moron here, it's very possible that by the time they get good and have enough experience, Wlad will be too old or be long retired. It'll be a real pity if it works out that way because it'd be great to see him in against some of these young guys coming up now like Stiverne, Wilder, Jennings etc. I expect he'd beat them, but maybe in a few more years these guys will have some good experience, be a little more battle tested and actually look like the goods and put up a good fight because there is just no one good out there for him to fight at the moment, now that he's gotten rid of Povetkin, that isn't inexperienced and untested at a high enough level that they could compete.

        We've still got to see if these guys can make it past that middle ground though. Stiverne is doing it, once again against The Nipple and I expect he'll maybe even stop him this time, hopefully the stamina is a bit better. The other guys are still way too untested to know. Wilder needs to fight someone worth a damn ASAP. We need to see him get some rounds in. Honestly though, I don't think he's good. The moment he fights someone who can take his punch I think he'll have many big flaws show up.
        Last edited by BennyST; 04-24-2014, 12:53 PM.

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        • #74
          How bad the heavyweights of this era are is greatly exaggerated for the sole purpose of discrediting the Klitschkos & other Eastern Euros.

          '80s & '90s were shallower HW divisions below the a couple top guys.

          '70s and back, you're talking about essentially a different weight division where guys like Adamek and Chambers would have been "big".

          If Wilder was challenging Peter for the title in MSG this weekend lots of people would be swinging on their nuts calling them the greatest monster athletes in the universe but just knowing there are 20 guys with hard to spell Polish/Ukrainian/Russian names who can easily knock their heads off takes the wind of out the sails. So they pretend HWs just "suck" and ********** to Floyd gossip - who despite being just as boring as Wladimir and also fighting with lopsided odds is a mega superstar in the US.
          Last edited by Fr3$h; 04-24-2014, 01:07 PM.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Badzi1987 View Post
            Can't knock Leapai for his confidence dude has a punchers chance with his crazy powered Samoa frame
            His power is a bit of a myth to be honest. He doesn't actually have much power at the world level. Club fighter level yes, world level no. Certainly not enough to hurt or drop Wlad. The guys he's stopped have been utter nobodies and the few times he's stepped up he's gone the distance. This step up won't go the distance though.

            Originally posted by Hougigo View Post
            Getting KO'd by Kevin Johnson severely concerns me though
            Yeah, and another time earlier in his career too. He's not an iron chinned Tua like brick as some think based on appearance. He's been dropped quite a few times, so I don't see him lasting too long against the right hand of Wlad.

            Originally posted by Freedom2014
            Video of today's Klitschko-Leapai presser in Dusseldorf:

            That guy is bat**** crazy. He's got something wrong with him. I don't know if he's just insanely desperate for money, but it's sad to see.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Lebanon View Post
              How bad the heavyweights of this era are is greatly exaggerated for the sole purpose of discrediting the Klitschkos & other Eastern Euros.

              '80s & '90s were shallower HW divisions below the a couple top guys.

              '70s and back, you're talking about essentially a different weight division where guys like Adamek and Chambers would have been "big".

              If Wilder was challenging Peter for the title in MSG this weekend lots of people would be swinging on their nuts calling them the greatest monster athletes in the universe but just knowing there are 20 guys with hard to spell Polish/Ukrainian/Russian names who can easily knock their heads off takes the wind of out the sails. So they pretend HWs just "suck" and ********** to Floyd gossip - who despite being just as boring as Wladimir and also fighting with lopsided odds is a mega superstar in the US.
              Wow. That is some intensely sad delusion.

              I feel pity for guys like this. It does astound me that what they attribute the meaning of some posts to is so far from the actual truth and thought behind it, and it shows that the only guys with prejudice are themselves.

              Let me tell ya now though little fella, no matter where and when Wilder and Peter fought in fantasy land and who watched them, it doesn't change their skill level. The fact that they are black, which is obviously what you are getting at sadly....it's always these guys that bring this **** up too funnily enough, doesn't change the fact that one of them was always **** and the other is currently ****. We'll see what happens with him in the future. He may end up being good.

              Wlad kicked his ass too. What deluded thought process did you have to go through to think that one up?

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              • #77
                Why are you calling me "little fella"? are you trying to be an intimidating internet persona? lol

                I reiterate:

                HWs from the '70s and prior were generally significantly lighter so of course they looked faster, smoother, more technical (well, sometimes, even beloved and off-limits uncriticizable Ali fought some total bums).

                You didn't watch HWs in the '80s and '90s if you thought they were "superior" to the current ones. They ****** as bad or worse. You're just repeating **** kids say online.

                Guys with both the size and talent to dominate modern HW boxing are exceptionally rare. Guys like Lewis and Wlad make everyone else look bad. When they're around their divisions look bad.

                You have Valuevs, Bowes, Golatas, Wilders and Peters who are built like monsters but technically vastly inferior when compared to Klitschko. Big but clumsy. Then you have a plethora of very tight, talented guys who are too big or greedy for cruiser but way too small for Wlad.

                One trait (talent) or the other trait (size) but not both, so there's a big drop off after Wlad. Maybe lobby for a 200-225 lbs division or something but stop pretending the fighters of the '80s and '90s were worlds ahead just to marginalize the champ.
                Last edited by Fr3$h; 04-24-2014, 01:58 PM.

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                • #78
                  Good fights for Wladimir before he retires:

                  - Pulev

                  - Winner of Perez - Jennings

                  - Winner of Stiverne - Arreola

                  - Winner of Chisora - Fury

                  - Wilder

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by Lebanon View Post
                    Why are you calling me "little fella"? are you trying to be an intimidating internet persona? lol

                    I reiterate:

                    HWs from the '70s and prior were generally significantly lighter so of course they looked faster, smoother, more technical (well, sometimes, even beloved and off-limits uncriticizable Ali fought some total bums).

                    You didn't watch HWs in the '80s and '90s if you thought they were "superior" to the current ones. They ****** as bad or worse. You're just repeating **** kids say online.

                    Guys with both the size and talent to dominate modern HW boxing are exceptionally rare. Guys like Lewis and Wlad make everyone else look bad. When they're around their divisions look bad.

                    You have Valuevs, Bowes, Golatas, Wilders and Peters who are built like monsters but technically vastly inferior when compared to Klitschko. Big but clumsy. Then you have a plethora of very tight, talented guys who are too big or greedy for cruiser but way too small for Wlad.

                    One trait (talent) or the other trait (size) but not both, so there's a big drop off after Wlad. Maybe lobby for a 200-225 lbs division or something but stop pretending the fighters of the '80s and '90s were worlds ahead just to marginalize the champ.
                    Intimidate you?

                    I assumed by the statements you made that you were a younger kid. Sorry if you're not.

                    I still don't understand why you think I'm trying to bring Wlad down. He could fight and be a top fighter in any era, so I don't see why you you keep bringing that up.

                    Lewis was in an excellent era. He didn't make everyone look bad, because not everyone was bad. He had a lot of hard tough fights against skilled guys, both big and small, many of whom had a lot of top success outside of fighting with Lewis, which proves they were excellent fighters. Thank you for proving my point though.

                    Top fighters will always be successful, no matter how good the guy at the very top is.

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                    • #80
                      What's with the ******s saying the 90's HW's were as bad as todays?

                      Top 10 HW's by year.

                      1990
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Mike Tyson
                      Razor Ruddock
                      James (Buster) Douglas
                      Tim Witherspoon
                      Carl Williams
                      Francesco Damiani
                      Rid**** Bowe
                      Ray Mercer
                      George Foreman

                      1991
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Mike Tyson
                      Rid**** Bowe
                      Razor Ruddock
                      Ray Mercer
                      George Foreman
                      Tim Witherspoon
                      Tony Tucker
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Michael Moorer

                      1992
                      Rid**** Bowe
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Michael Moorer
                      Tony Tucker
                      George Foreman
                      Razor Ruddock
                      Ray Mercer
                      Tommy Morrison
                      Alex Garcia

                      1993
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Rid**** Bowe
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Michael Moorer
                      Michael Bentt
                      Oliver McCall
                      Ray Mercer
                      Phil Jackson
                      Tommy Morrison
                      Mike Hunter

                      1994
                      George Foreman
                      Oliver McCall
                      Rid**** Bowe
                      Michael Moorer
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Herbie Hide
                      Larry Holmes
                      Henry Akinwande
                      Jorge Luis Gonzalez
                      Lionel Butler

                      1995
                      Rid**** Bowe
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Mike Tyson
                      Michael Moorer
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Bruce Seldon
                      Frank Bruno
                      George Foreman
                      Alexander Zolkin
                      Henry Akinwande

                      1996
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Mike Tyson
                      Michael Moorer
                      Andrew Golota
                      Ray Mercer
                      Henry Akinwande
                      David Tua
                      Rid**** Bowe
                      Tim Witherspoon

                      1997
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Michael Moorer
                      Ray Mercer
                      Tim Witherspoon
                      George Foreman
                      Shannon Briggs
                      Ike Ibeabuchi
                      David Tua
                      David Izon

                      1998
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Michael Grant
                      Michael Moorer
                      Shannon Briggs
                      Chris Byrd
                      Ike Ibeabuchi
                      David Tua
                      Andrew Golota
                      Hasim Rahman

                      1999
                      Lennox Lewis
                      Evander Holyfield
                      Michael Grant
                      Ike Ibeabuchi
                      David Tua
                      Mike Tyson
                      Vitali Klitschko
                      Andrew Golota
                      Derrick Jefferson
                      Oleg Maskaev



                      Will one of these ******s tell me which year had a worse top ten than the one below.

                      2014
                      Wladimir Klitschko
                      Kubrat Pulev
                      Alexander Povetkin
                      Bermane Stiverne
                      Tyson Fury
                      Robert Helenius
                      Chris Arreola
                      Vyacheslav Glazkov
                      Tomasz Adamek
                      Deontay Wilder

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