To the people who think Collazo has a chance. Let me remind you.

[The Gambler1981]

Ok can you please give me examples of when Collazo has taken out guys with one punch? Thanks.

His last fight? If we are willing to use guys like faded Morales and Khan as examples.

I don't see Garcia taking out many world class guys with his power either, hence my argument. My argument is not that Collazo is a big time puncher it is that Garcia isn't~ so prove to me he is not using Morales or Khan~ his only 2 knockouts in his last 7 fights since he became a title holder, including not knocking out such stern guys as Zab Judah, Kendal Holt and faded Morales in the first fight

[Larry the boss]

Well seeing as how we've all forgot that Khan beat Maidana, the next opponent of the man you worship because it happened four years ago, maybe we should also forget a loss that happened six years ago if we go by you and your fellow fucktards reasonings no?

and in those last 4 years wtf has Khan done??? get ko'd and lose??? while Maidana went on to win a ww title?

[Larry the boss]

How can you make a thread to slam Collazo when Khan hasn't done jack **** himself?? Khan's last "big" win was against a past prime Judah and since then he has hit the damn canvas 5 times....

[Dirk Diggler UK]

His last fight? If we are willing to use guys like faded Morales and Khan as examples.

I don't see Garcia taking out many world class guys with his power either, hence my argument. My argument is not that Collazo is a big time puncher it is that Garcia isn't~ so prove to me he is not using Morales or Khan~ his only 2 knockouts in his last 7 fights since he became a title holder, including not knocking out such stern guys as Zab Judah, Kendal Holt and faded Morales in the first fight

Vicky Ortiz quit again. He wasn't even badly hurt.

I believe he dropped Morales hard in the first fight with the same left hook. Hurt Zab several times with his right - can't remember if he dropped him? Dropped Matthysse.

[The Gambler1981]

Vicky Ortiz quit again. He wasn't even badly hurt.

I believe he dropped Morales hard in the first fight with the same left hook. Hurt Zab several times with his right - can't remember if he dropped him? Dropped Matthysse.

I would say looks can be deceiving, you give him credit for dropping some guys hard and hitting them hard, but when Collazo does it to a similar level of guy you say he quit. I would say Collazo could accomplish those same feats against the same opposition with the possible exception of Matthysse but only because that same series of events won't happen again.

IF he hit super hard he would have made Zab and Holt fold.

Garcia is a pretty good boxer and he does have a nice left hook so he can spring that on guys at the right time but that doesn't make him a huge puncher.

[IronDanHamza]

Vicky Ortiz quit again. He wasn't even badly hurt.

I believe he dropped Morales hard in the first fight with the same left hook. Hurt Zab several times with his right - can't remember if he dropped him? Dropped Matthysse.

Dropping any version of Morales or stopping him tells me a guy has power.

That's why I said he could stop Khan before their fight if he lands because people were saying he can't punch because of his low KO %. How times change.

He did drop Judah.

But I do also think his power is overrated now. He's not a monstrous puncher but he can definitely punch hard.

[IronDanHamza]

I would say looks can be deceiving, you give him credit for dropping some guys hard and hitting them hard, but when Collazo does it to a similar level of guy you say he quit. I would say Collazo could accomplish those same feats against the same opposition with the possible exception of Matthysse but only because that same series of events won't happen again.

IF he hit super hard he would have made Zab and Holt fold.

Garcia is a pretty good boxer and he does have a nice left hook so he can spring that on guys at the right time but that doesn't make him a huge puncher.

Not neccerarily because Matthysse couldn't stop Judah.

Judah's only actually been legitmately taken out twice and that was Tszyu and Cotto.

Khan he just quit.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Dropping any version of Morales or stopping him tells me a guy has power.

That's why I said he could stop Khan before their fight if he lands because people were saying he can't punch because of his low KO %. How times change.

He did drop Judah.

But I do also think his power is overrated now. He's not a monstrous puncher but he can definitely punch hard.

He clearly hits a lot harder than Collazo. I don't think that's debatable.

[The Gambler1981]

Dropping any version of Morales or stopping him tells me a guy has power.

That's why I said he could stop Khan before their fight if he lands because people were saying he can't punch because of his low KO %. How times change.

He did drop Judah.

But I do also think his power is overrated now. He's not a monstrous puncher but he can definitely punch hard.

Of course he can punch a bit, I just don't think he is a vastly bigger puncher than Collazo

[IronDanHamza]

He clearly hits a lot harder than Collazo. I don't think that's debatable.

Oh yeah, most definitely.