To the people who think Collazo has a chance. Let me remind you.

[The Gambler1981]

Yeah but what I'm saying is if that was the case then wouldn't that mean Matthysse isn't a hard puncher either?

He couldn't stop Judah or make him fold.

But it's clear that Matthysse is a hard puncher.

Except how much was he able to apply it, I thought Matthysse was over rated also as a puncher for that reason. Now Matthysse is clearly a hard puncher but he wasn't making me forget about Julian Jackson either which was they hype around him.

So yea I did use that fight against Matthysse, but only for the same reason not to say he can't punch but to say there are limits to even his power.

[Rome-By-Ko]

He clearly hits a lot harder than Collazo. I don't think that's debatable.

At WW it's debatable being we don't know if Garcia's power will come up with him..

[The Gambler1981]

It is a dumb debate anyway because Khan's goal should be to not test Collazo's power, if he is tasting it I say he is losing the fight in one fashion or another.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Okay, make a point.

Pretty sure I just made one. Maidana is considered one of the hardest punchers in the sport and I don't remember if he hurt Morales. Garcia dropped him hard in the first fight and took him out with one shot in the second.

Pretty silly debate. Garcia punches hard.

[IronDanHamza]

You said dropping any version of Morales tells you a guy has power. How do you know he was very durable?

I said it told me that, that's what I believed and it turned out my belief was right.

How do I know Morales is very durable? I think Morales durability speaks for itself.

[RubenSonny]

Pretty sure I just made one. Maidana is considered one of the hardest punchers in the sport and I don't remember if he hurt Morales. Garcia dropped him hard in the first fight and took him out with one shot in the second.

Pretty silly debate. Garcia punches hard.

Well I have continuously said Maidanas power is overrated but he seems to get a little better leverage now. He also failed to stop Shot Shot Corley despite hitting him over and over again, are you going to pretend that version of Corley was very durable?

To clarify I never said Garcia couldn't punch, I would point to him dropping Matthysse as proof that he could and I think he his punching technique has improved. I was dis*****g that dropping any version of Morales is proof you have power.

[RubenSonny]

I said it told me that, that's what I believed and it turned out my belief was right.

How do I know Morales is very durable? I think Morales durability speaks for itself.

How do you know the fat shot for years version was very durable?

[IronDanHamza]

How do you know the fat shot for years version was very durable?

He showed his durability against Maidana and Cano. Wasn't dropped by either. Cano's obviously not an overly hard pucher but he's got decent snap.

I'm not even saying that Garcia is a great puncher, I'm not even saying he's one of the hardest punchers today, in this very thread I've said his power is overrated.

All I'm saying is, when everyone said Garcia can't crack an egg before the Khan fight, I felt the fact he managed to drop Morales with one shot tells me he has some power behind his shots and enough to stop Khan and that's exactly what happened.

[RubenSonny]

He showed his durability against Maidana and Cano. Wasn't dropped by either. Cano's obviously not an overly hard pucher but he's got decent snap.

I'm not even saying that Garcia is a great puncher, I'm not even saying he's one of the hardest punchers today, in this very thread I've said his power is overrated.

All I'm saying is, when everyone said Garcia can't crack an egg before the Khan fight, I felt the fact he managed to drop Morales with one shot tells me he has some power behind his shots and enough to stop Khan and that's exactly what happened.

Was the version of Corley Maidana fought durable, I certainly don't think so yet he couldn't stop him either.

I'm not saying Garcia can't punch I'm saying dropping Morales isn't a good example.

Also dropping any version of any fighter should never automatically mean you have power, it's a silly statement.

[IronDanHamza]

Was the version of Corley Maidana fought durable, I certainly don't think so yet he couldn't stop him either.

I'm not saying Garcia can't punch I'm saying dropping Morales isn't a good example.

Also dropping any version of any fighter should never automatically mean you have power, it's a silly statement.

Obviously I mean any version of Morales up to the point he fought Garcia the first time. And I believe that to be the case.

The Morales fight was the fight where I thought Garcia showed me he has some power. So I'm talking about the fight that in my opinion, showed me he can punch.

I wasn't using it as an example, that's the actual fight where I considered him to have power. At the actual time it happened and I was re-laying that.

And it turned out, coincidence or not, that my opinion after that fight turned out to be right.

It's a non point really, I was saying the Morales fight showed me he has more power than people were giving him credit for and it showed me that dropping and badly hurting Morales that he could punch, again, in my opinion at the time.