Comments Thread For: Roach: If Mayweather is So Good, Why No Pacquiao?

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  • Evol
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    #251
    Originally posted by GRUSTLER
    You said Marquez hits harder than Mayweather. Mayweather power is underrated. Marquez takes risks that gave opportunities for Pacquiao Mayweather takes none and beats Manny easily or just punishes him with counters. Reason why Bob stayed away.
    because pac has never lost before right thats why bob wants to keep pac away from floyd LOL. listen to urself. out of all of the knock outs pac has received the one from marquez was the most brutal one and look what bob is doing, planning a 5th fight with pac and marquez again. so please explain to me what can floyd do to manny that hasnt been done already that bob is scared of it happpening to manny? LMAO! the one being protected is floyd and his "0"..

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    • smoothsmg
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      #252
      Originally posted by JLBlades
      Manny wanted the fight. Floyd called him desperate and undeserving despite the world wanting it.

      I don't know why you're repeating what I said about Tim being paid to step aside to make the fight like youre trying to make a point to me.

      Early on like 4-5 years ago, there was blame on both sides. At this point in time, it's all Floyd's fault for no fight or negotiations. Not liking Bob Arum is not a good excuse, especially from someone who wants to be known as the best in business, and calls himself TBE.
      Manny wanted the fight sooooooo badly that he set up an April fight without trying to negotiate a fight with Floyd. Gotcha

      I repeated it cause Manny/Arum could have paid that step aside money if they were soooooooo serious about making a Floyd fight.

      So Manny/Arum have reached out to make negotiations happen? Dont fool yourself dude.

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      • Evol
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        #253
        Originally posted by smoothsmg
        Manny wanted the fight sooooooo badly that he set up an April fight without trying to negotiate a fight with Floyd. Gotcha

        I repeated it cause Manny/Arum could have paid that step aside money if they were soooooooo serious about making a Floyd fight.

        So Manny/Arum have reached out to make negotiations happen? Dont fool yourself dude.
        floyd = i'll never work with arum. pac is tied to arum until the end of 2014. should pac not fight and just wait until his contract expired then go and talk to floyd? LOL

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        • smoothsmg
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          #254
          Originally posted by Evol
          floyd = i'll never work with arum. pac is tied to arum until the end of 2014. should pac not fight and just wait until his contract expired then go and talk to floyd? LOL
          Neither party reached out, so its all moot. Cant blame one side for no negotiations not happening when neither party tried to make anything happen.

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          • JLBlades
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            #255
            Originally posted by smoothsmg
            Manny wanted the fight sooooooo badly that he set up an April fight without trying to negotiate a fight with Floyd. Gotcha

            I repeated it cause Manny/Arum could have paid that step aside money if they were soooooooo serious about making a Floyd fight.

            So Manny/Arum have reached out to make negotiations happen? Dont fool yourself dude.
            There was plenty of time for negotiations to happen but Floyd wanted no part of it. If he did he wouldn't be talking about 1-2, leftovers, tax problems, desperate dog, needs to beat other fighters, I hate Bob Arum.

            Floyd is the A side. If he doesn't want to negotiate, it doesn't happen. Everybody on Manny's side said they were willing. Everybody on Floyd's side were just repeating Floyd's lines.

            I don't know how you can even try to think it's on anybody to be able to make Floyd negotiate. Floyd has made it very clear he does what he wants. The Manny Pacquiao fight is something he doesn't want, even tho he probably wins and makes his biggest payday.

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            • smoothsmg
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              #256
              Originally posted by JLBlades
              There was plenty of time for negotiations to happen but Floyd wanted no part of it. If he did he wouldn't be talking about 1-2, leftovers, tax problems, desperate dog, needs to beat other fighters, I hate Bob Arum.

              Floyd is the A side. If he doesn't want to negotiate, it doesn't happen. Everybody on Manny's side said they were willing. Everybody on Floyd's side were just repeating Floyd's lines.

              I don't know how you can even try to think it's on anybody to be able to make Floyd negotiate. Floyd has made it very clear he does what he wants. The Manny Pacquiao fight is something he doesn't want, even tho he probably wins and makes his biggest payday.
              Neither party reached out to negotiate, period. Quit trying to blame one side. Neither party tried AT ALL. Floyd didnt try, Arum didnt try. Its that simple.

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              • Evol
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                #257
                Originally posted by smoothsmg
                Neither party reached out, so its all moot. Cant blame one side for no negotiations not happening when neither party tried to make anything happen.
                fair enough, just dont say if pac wanted floyd he should have talked to floyd instead of going along with the april 12 fight. if u were in pac's position u would move right along too just like floyd aint sitting around waiting for manny.

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                • JLBlades
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                  #258
                  Originally posted by smoothsmg
                  Neither party reached out to negotiate, period. Quit trying to blame one side. Neither party tried AT ALL. Floyd didnt try, Arum didnt try. Its that simple.
                  Yeah, cause Floyd told Showtime he won't work with Arum. Showtime had to back their prima donna.
                  Showtime wants the fight.

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                  • icebergisonfire
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                    #259
                    I think that there is a lot to say that Arum doesn't want to have to open up the books about how they've been robbing Manny for years.

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                    • GRUSTLER
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                      #260
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      You would think that a guy like Floyd would accept the fight that makes the most business sense ever for him, right?

                      "I can't take on Mosley because it doesn't make business sense." - Floyd


                      So it was Arum that made Floyd say:- "I'm not interested in fighting Manny. I'm going to take a vacation"
                      - "I'm not interested in Manny. Poll coming up for Khan or Maidana"
                      - "Health comes first"
                      - "No PPV money for Manny"
                      - "All Manny needs to do is take the test ". Manny agrees then "I, Floyd, disagree on the money terms"
                      - "Manny needs to avenge his losses first." but Khan and maidana do not?
                      - "I can't do business with Arum" - Why are you saying this now Floyd? ran out of roadblocks?
                      I can see that you are new to boxing because clearly why the fight hasn't happened was because Manny, Roach and Arum felt that Floyd should let the commission do their jobs back in 09/10. Fight should have BEEN happened but Manny didn't want it.

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