Pacquiao: I won't leave Arum for Mayweather fight

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  • JDD1
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    #121
    Originally posted by Evol
    no everything is NOT the same as 2009 but what we're asking is what has changed between floyd and arum since then LOL.. u guys make it seem like arum and floyd had another dealing where arum rip floyd off again or something. floyd and arum has been distance from each other since 09 with any type of business deal so what changed to make floyd not want to deal with arum??
    In my initial post I listed all the things that at leats I know that happened beteen then and now. I also pointed out that Bob made leaving promoters/severing ties as a condition of getting a manny fight. the increased beef between Haymon and TR. The network cold war. thats what is different.

    In addition to all the bad blood on both sides, Bob came up with a way to get manny fights that allowed him to retian sole promotional control of the fight. floyd is trying to do the same with a manny/floyd fight.

    Now if you feel that is wrong, fine.

    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Well no because I don't remember Pacquiao demanding that Floyd severe ties with Golden Boy.
    Come on my man, respectfully, you are "ducking my point" as you said to the other poster. You know floyd is a promoter and a fighter. His asking manny to leave and join TMT/MP is him being "promoter" not fighter.

    Its equivalent to Bob asking the other fighters to leave as a condition of gettin a manny fight.

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    • Dirk Diggler UK
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      #122
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Hmm...well then that would mean you blame Manny for the three years in between when his responses weren't beneficial? Or will you somehow find a way to blame Floyd for that too?
      I don't blame only one side. I'm not emotionally invested in one fighter the way you are.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #123
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        I don't blame only one side. I'm not emotionally invested in one fighter the way you are.
        Cool. I'll take that as a yes.

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        • JDD1
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          #124
          Originally posted by Evol
          is floyd a promoter or a fighter? and manny is not shane,tim or marquez. u're asking the cash cow from this promotional company to just get up and leave his contract. where was shane or marquez gonna go at the time if they didnt sign with TR for a manny fight? u're making it seems like shane and maqruez could have gotten better deals if they went elsewhere. that was a cash out move by the both of them!
          he is both. I think its clear his request is as promoter and not fighter.

          I agree with you that Manny makes more than the other guys. But its the principle. If its wrong to make joining a promotional team a condition of securing a fight for one fighter, its wrong for all fighters. If its ok for one, than its ok for all.

          Yes, shane, tim, and JMM agreed because the payday was the biggest they would get at the time. Isn't that the same for manny here?

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          • Holywarrior
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            #125
            I feel bad for the PI that they actually almost let him be the president. This is the type of beta male bowing to master Arum, to run a country? C'mon

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              #126
              I thought he didn't renew his tr contract this year

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                #127
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                I thought he didn't renew his tr contract this year
                Who knows? I think there's a lot riding on this fight April 12th.

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                • Evol
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by JDD1
                  he is both. I think its clear his request is as promoter and not fighter.

                  I agree with you that Manny makes more than the other guys. But its the principle. If its wrong to make joining a promotional team a condition of securing a fight for one fighter, its wrong for all fighters. If its ok for one, than its ok for all.

                  Yes, shane, tim, and JMM agreed because the payday was the biggest they would get at the time. Isn't that the same for manny here?
                  How so??? So u're assuming Floyd wil live manny more?? When half of this drama as to why the fight hasn't happen yet is regarding the money split issue! Lol. With arum atleast PAC gets a guarantee number upfront. U're basing ur opinion on what u think will happen lol.

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                  • Southpawology
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                    #129
                    Arum owns mannys soul.

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                    • megadeth
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by Beercules
                      Even if Manny does leave The Bob Father; Floyd will find another excuse.
                      Just like he found an excuse not to fight Cotto right after he left Arum, right??

                      Originally posted by Beercules
                      And anyway I thought Manny wasn't resigning a deal?
                      Seeing that he seems to be going back on this, will you and others call this a duck?

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