Oscar trying to send floyd a message

[IronDanHamza]

Winky Wright turned down both De La Hoya and Arum's offer(for Floyd). So much misinformation here.

With that said, I doubt Arum was serious with putting Mayweather, a 140 pounder at the time, in with Winky a JMW, but he made the offer and Winky turned it down. Apparently Arum and Shaw had agreed to 50-50 split, but then Arum changed it 55-45 split in favor of Floyd, Shaw then said no deal. Dosn't sound like a duck, sounds like Arum being Arum. Those are the facts, there are articled backing this up. He also turned down DLH's offer and a Taylor rematch.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/22/Sports/Wright_Mayweather_bou.shtml

There was no ducking involved here, this was a combination of Arum playing games like always, and Shaw/Winky never agreeing with anything other than a 50-50 split with any fighter.

Winky did what he always did and that's once again walk away from a career high pay day being offered by Mayweather.

Whether it was serious or not, Winky walked away from a career high pay day.

[cupocity303]

Winky Wright turned down both De La Hoya and Arum's offer(for Floyd). So much misinformation here.

With that said, I doubt Arum was serious with putting Mayweather, a 140 pounder at the time, in with Winky a JMW, but he made the offer and Winky turned it down. Apparently Arum and Shaw had agreed to 50-50 split, but then Arum changed it 55-45 split in favor of Floyd, Shaw then said no deal. Dosn't sound like a duck, sounds like Arum being Arum. Those are the facts, there are articled backing this up. He also turned down DLH's offer and a Taylor rematch.

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/22/Sports/Wright_Mayweather_bou.shtml

There was no ducking involved here, this was a combination of Arum playing games like always, and Shaw/Winky never agreeing with anything other than a 50-50 split with any fighter.

I might have known/read all about this back when it was 'recent news' but forgot all about it since it's not too important. And yes, the Floyd offer seems like it was for record keeping, so that years later they can say that an offer was made to quiet any ducking talk.

If Winky wasn't such a piss poor draw, one could even say that the Oscar offer was a low ball offer which Oscar expected to be turned down. If you ignore any drawing abilities, with Winky beating Tito and Mosley one would think that he deserves more money just for that -- though I don't agree with that. If there was a real offer with a contract, he should've taken it.

[Leonard Eller B]

I might have known/read all about this back when it was 'recent news' but forgot all about it since it's not too important. And yes, the Floyd offer seems like it was for record keeping, so that years later they can say that an offer was made to quiet any ducking talk.

If Winky wasn't such a piss poor draw, one could even say that the Oscar offer was a low ball offer which Oscar expected to be turned down. If you ignore any drawing abilities, with Winky beating Tito and Mosley one would think that he deserves more money just for that -- though I don't agree with that. If there was a real offer with a contract, he should've taken it.

You were presented with facts, and yet choose to ignore them in favor of your own twisted logic. You sir, need a chest rub.

[Holywarrior]

I might have known/read all about this back when it was 'recent news' but forgot all about it since it's not too important. And yes, the Floyd offer seems like it was for record keeping, so that years later they can say that an offer was made to quiet any ducking talk.

If Winky wasn't such a piss poor draw, one could even say that the Oscar offer was a low ball offer which Oscar expected to be turned down. If you ignore any drawing abilities, with Winky beating Tito and Mosley one would think that he deserves more money just for that -- though I don't agree with that. If there was a real offer with a contract, he should've taken it.

6 million is not a lowball offer for a guy like Wright.

Trinidad, at the height of he and Delahoya's powers, only made 10 million.

[cupocity303]

6 million is not a lowball offer for a guy like Wright.

Trinidad, at the height of he and Delahoya's powers, only made 10 million.

I said I didn't agree with it. Double's advocate talk.

This is Winky's quote:

"He offers everyone else $10, 15-million," Wright said, referring to the $10-million Felix Trinidad got for beating De La Hoya in 1999. "I ain't doing it."

So, beating the two guys who defeated Oscar, he feels that he is at the vary least entitled to 10 million. But as I said, I don't agree with it.

[-Kev-]

I might have known/read all about this back when it was 'recent news' but forgot all about it since it's not too important. And yes, the Floyd offer seems like it was for record keeping, so that years later they can say that an offer was made to quiet any ducking talk.

If Winky wasn't such a piss poor draw, one could even say that the Oscar offer was a low ball offer which Oscar expected to be turned down. If you ignore any drawing abilities, with Winky beating Tito and Mosley one would think that he deserves more money just for that -- though I don't agree with that. If there was a real offer with a contract, he should've taken it.

I think, aside from Arum playing games here with the split, turning down a 140 pound, undefeated fighter who was going up 2 weight classes to 154 and you(Winky) was gonna go down one weight class, for 55-45 split on a PPV of probably in the very least 500k, was just utterly ******ed by Winky/Shaw. I mean Clearly, Floyd was biting off more than he can chew. Despite this, Winky still managed to turn him down. That's something that is just never before seen type of stuff. Turning down a small, pretty popular fighter at the time, cause you were gonna get 5% less than him.

Winky would have been favorite, and highly likely get the W. But he turned it down like he turned down many other offers.

[Holywarrior]

I said I didn't agree with it. Double's advocate talk.

This is Winky's quote:



So, beating the two guys who defeated Oscar, he feels that he is at the vary least entitled to 10 million. But as I said, I don't agree with it.

Who else got 10 - 15 million? Hell Vargas got 6 mill and that fight was twice as big as a Delahoya/Wright fight would've been.

[cupocity303]

Who else got 10 - 15 million? Hell Vargas got 6 mill and that fight was twice as big as a Delahoya/Wright fight would've been.

You're pressing the issue for no reason. I told you his reasoning.

He defeated two guys that Oscar has lost to. Vargas lost to Tito Trinidad prior to facing Oscar. There is nothing else to it.

He should have taken the Oscar fight.

[Holywarrior]

You're pressing the issue for no reason. I told you his reasoning.

He defeated two guys that Oscar has lost to. Vargas lost to Tito Trinidad prior to facing Oscar. There is nothing else to it.

He should have taken the Oscar fight.

Yes but it just goes to show how full of **** Winky was back then. "offers everyone 10-15 million"

[IIG]

You were presented with facts, and yet choose to ignore them in favor of your own twisted logic. You sir, need a chest rub.

These characters are too much.