Did Leonard cherrypick Hagler?

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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #31
    Originally posted by MayMosPeaHop
    Why do people keep bringing up the fact that Hagler was favored to win so it is not a cherry pick? Perception usually is not reality. Hagler was never going to destroy Sugar Ray. The fact that Leonard waited to fight Hagler was planned. Cherry pick is not the word I would use, but Leonard knew what he was doing.
    ray didn't want a piece of marvelous til he thought marvin was slowing down.

    FACT.

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    • toooooool
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      #32
      Originally posted by MayMosPeaHop
      The fight was not some huge gamble. That is why Sugar Ray waited. Back to the perception vs reality! Ray was not a defensive genius, but he could move. He did what he had to do to get the W, but stop acting like Hagler was some boogieman. And the fight was not easy for Ray, but he got it done. Like I said, he waited for a reason. Do I agree with the TS that it was a cherry pick, No. But to dismiss the fact that he waited and stated in interviews that he waited should not be dismissed as nothing.
      Wrong Answer..the fight was a huge gamble..everyone thought Ray was
      getting knocked out including you,now you play Monday morning
      quarterback...

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        #33
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        ray didn't want a piece of marvelous til he thought marvin was slowing down.

        FACT.
        He beat Marvin when he was champ..period...Marvin failed,Ray won.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Holywarrior
          No. Leonard had some demands met, but no. He was 100 years old in boxing years and retired. Hearns waxed him shortly after.
          dumb ass bringing up ray's age.

          hagler was older, turned pro 4-5 years earlier AND had DOUBLE ray's fights.

          yeah ray was old. LMFAO

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            #35
            Originally posted by toooooool
            He beat Marvin when he was champ..period...Marvin failed,Ray won.
            yeah wait til marv was older, fight like a biatch, then run from a rematch.

            sugar gay is why boxing is so pussified now.

            cherrypicking primadonna ali wannabe.

            the sugar gay legacy.

            f a g couldn't even come up with his own nickname.

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            • MayMosPeaHop
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              #36
              Originally posted by toooooool
              Wrong Answer..the fight was a huge gamble..everyone thought Ray was
              getting knocked out including you,now you play Monday morning
              quarterback...
              Now you are going to tell me what I thought. I am not a child and do not subscribe to how everyone else feels or believes is how I feel. You probably thought Matthysse was going to blast Garcia. You do not have to play Monday morning quarterback when you are aware of what each person is capable of on Friday.

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              • bigsmoothh
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                #37
                im not sure.

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                • BigZigga
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                  #38
                  Love Ray but I do think he was very cautious with how he selected his fights. Knew Duran would get fat for the immediate rematch. Waited a decade to fight him again. Fought Marvin after he already started slipping. Great fighter no doubt but he was selective and said so himself

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                  • I Love Jesus!
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by LarryXXX
                    Did he wait until he got older and saw some slippage in him? why did he not take the fight earlier? he even held a press conference where Hagler thought he would announce the fight only to announce his retirement? so was it a cherrypick?
                    Leonard was out for 3 years. Well it wasn't as honorable as picking juan manuel marquez and making him jump three divisions but what are you going to do.

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                    • Sugar Adam Ali
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by BigZigga
                      Love Ray but I do think he was very cautious with how he selected his fights. Knew Duran would get fat for the immediate rematch. Waited a decade to fight him again. Fought Marvin after he already started slipping. Great fighter no doubt but he was selective and said so himself
                      Yeah very selective

                      What about fighting Duran in the 1st fight

                      Or prime benitez

                      Or prime hearns

                      Or prime kalule

                      The dude fought a who's who of atg in a span of 2 years

                      Even his comeback fight was vs a prime hall of famer terry Norris


                      Yeah real selective...smh

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