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  • HeroBando
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    #21
    Originally posted by rey guey
    don't need to be sober to figure this out

    "But they went on the record and they've campaigned for years that [Golovkin] will fight anybody from 154 to 175...anybody...and anybody means anybody. So I said that I have no problem fighting Golovkin and now all of a sudden it's a campaign to stay at 160."



    by saying that Ward is offering to fight GGG.

    by definition offer means

    to say that you are willing to do something
    to give someone the opportunity to accept or take (something)



    Ward offered and GGG wanted to stay at 160 but a Chavez fights comes up and 168 doesn't seem to be a problem
    By that standard GGG has also offered a fight to Ward, there's probably quotes along those lines. And also Stevenson has offered a fight to Kovalev by your definition.

    In boxing offering usually means making an offer, and that hasn't happened afaik.

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      #22
      Originally posted by rey guey
      don't need to be sober to figure this out

      "But they went on the record and they've campaigned for years that [Golovkin] will fight anybody from 154 to 175...anybody...and anybody means anybody. So I said that I have no problem fighting Golovkin and now all of a sudden it's a campaign to stay at 160."



      by saying that Ward is offering to fight GGG.

      by definition offer means

      to say that you are willing to do something
      to give someone the opportunity to accept or take (something)


      Ward offered and GGG wanted to stay at 160 but a Chavez fights comes up and 168 doesn't seem to be a problem
      They made the decision to stay at 160 before Ward mentioned that he wanted the fight. There has never been a offer and HBO has not pursued the fight btw. HBO is the one that has been giving the options to GGG when he fights on the network.

      The team clearly wanted to stay and unify 160 unless there was a big enough fight at 168. GGG/Abel have wanted Jr. for years at 160. So Jr. moved up and he's become available. It's a big fight. Ward is not that big of a fight yet. It's that simple really.

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      • rey guey
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        #23
        Originally posted by HeroBando
        By that standard GGG has also offered a fight to Ward, there's probably quotes along those lines. And also Stevenson has offered a fight to Kovalev by your definition.

        In boxing offering usually means making an offer, and that hasn't happened afaik.
        a contractual offer no. team GGG shot that idea down before any of that. honestly I think Chavez is a better economic option for GGG. I'm just pointing out the double standard over zealous GGG fans have.

        Martinez fights Cotto on PPV and it's ducking but GGG fights Chavez instead of Ward and a litany of excuses arise for GGG. just pointing out the hypocrisy

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          #24
          Originally posted by Evil Abed
          They made the decision to stay at 160 before Ward mentioned that he wanted the fight. There has never been a offer and HBO has not pursued the fight btw. HBO is the one that has been giving the options to GGG when he fights on the network.

          The team clearly wanted to stay and unify 160 unless there was a big enough fight at 168. GGG/Abel have wanted Jr. for years at 160. So Jr. moved up and he's become available. It's a big fight. Ward is not that big of a fight yet. It's that simple really.
          I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the less intelligent GGG fans.

          its fine when GGG does it but not Martinez

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            #25
            Originally posted by rey guey
            I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the less intelligent GGG fans.

            its fine when GGG does it but not Martinez
            It sucks when Hardcore douchebags get carried away with a fighter. I get it.

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            • lopez36
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              #26
              Originally posted by chepboxingking
              The fight proposal is for 3 1/2 months from now, how does he know he will only need one additional week of training? Regardless, props to Chavez for stepping up to the plate, even though he has more to lose than gain in this fight. If he wins the excuse will be GGG was too small and if he loses it'd be the opposite saying Chavez for whooped by a smaller man. Can't wait for this fight though! Cotto-martinez and this are by far the best fights scheduled.
              i have a feeling it has to do with his dads b-day,i believe I read somewhere it's on the 12th

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              • The Problem Child
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                #27
                Hmmm.... *Sigh*... No wonder I felt like this was going too smoothly to be true. He's probably starting to get cold feet when he all he hears is people call Golovkin the biggest puncher in boxing history but don't be a sissy... Either you want to fight him or not. Don't flirt with the idea, be a man and step inside the ****ing ring!!

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                • HeroBando
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by rey guey
                  a contractual offer no. team GGG shot that idea down before any of that. honestly I think Chavez is a better economic option for GGG. I'm just pointing out the double standard over zealous GGG fans have.

                  Martinez fights Cotto on PPV and it's ducking but GGG fights Chavez instead of Ward and a litany of excuses arise for GGG. just pointing out the hypocrisy
                  Team Ward shot it down even earlier, using pretty much the same lingo (will be bigger later) but maybe they changed their mind lately. Which would make sense, as GGG's leverage is about to go way up. Oh well, shoulda made that offer.

                  I don't think Cotto is the problem, it's whether Martinez is gonna face #1 contender GGG at all. If he's too old/frail to do it, maybe he shouldn't be The Champ at mw.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by rey guey
                    don't need to be sober to figure this out

                    "But they went on the record and they've campaigned for years that [Golovkin] will fight anybody from 154 to 175...anybody...and anybody means anybody. So I said that I have no problem fighting Golovkin and now all of a sudden it's a campaign to stay at 160."



                    by saying that Ward is offering to fight GGG.

                    by definition offer means

                    to say that you are willing to do something
                    to give someone the opportunity to accept or take (something)



                    Ward offered and GGG wanted to stay at 160 but a Chavez fights comes up and 168 doesn't seem to be a problem
                    Yep you better believe that was an official offer because Ward told a reporter I have no problem fighting GGG

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                    • Hougigo
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      Mixed messages. Here it says its pushed back cause of World Cup finals, which makes some sense

                      http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/3/27...ack-to-july-19
                      Makes sense, you don't want to go up against that

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