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  • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
    And your right about Raheem, but he didn't crush him,, he did what Floyd did to jmm,,
    You can out point and beat a guy and not crush him like you proclaimed


    If you wanna see someone get crushed that's manny vs hatton or cotto, gatti vs Floyd...Tito vs joppy,,,, Those were crushing beat downs not Raheem-morales
    It certainly doesn't Make Manny's win look much better coming off of the Raheem loss.

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    • Originally posted by Holywarrior View Post
      It certainly doesn't Make Manny's win look much better coming off of the Raheem loss.
      That's bad logic... Fighters are gonna lose..

      I was ringside in St. Louis when Devon undressed Maidana, using your logic what does that say about Floyd now fighting Maidana, a guy who barely got past an old morales...

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      • Originally posted by The Noose View Post
        Ortiz was always susceptible to straight rights, Floyd is a great counter puncher with perfect straight rights. Ortiz was in a brawl with Berto which made him very marketable, same with Maidana beating Broner. But very few people give these fighters a chance.
        But yes, Ortiz was a volume puncher. I dont think it was a GREAT win tho. Because Floyd did what was expected of him. Nothing more. JMM was a joke of a matchup.



        I agree. Im not anti-Floyd. I think he is great, but for a long time hasnt fought anyone i personally consider a real threat.

        You dont think Hearns or Leonard could have challenged Floyd of 2013? Seriously?
        Canelo was bigger than Floyd and young, undefeated. But he was also very inexperienced, had just been almost outboxed by Trout, and his size didnt matter because he doesnt impose himself on fighters. He stands off and boxes them. He also doesnt have the stamina to be a pressure fighter.
        Floyds performance was great, but again, i thought he would get an easy UD.




        I dont think its fair to compare SRL to Floyd because Floyd has never faced an ATG like Leonard did. He had his chance, but ducked Pac.
        I admit, i cant think of another fighter who could of moved up so many weights and still remained unbeaten and dominant like Floyd has.
        But he also hasnt faced the opposition other greats have. And with Pac, actually chose not to fight him. Cant say that about SRL or other true ATG's.

        So imo, Floyd is great, but there are major question marks.
        Its funny you say that about JMM considering the fact that Floyd made him look just like the others. Its one of his greatest wins. Even if JMM was washed up after that fight, what fighter in history could do that to JMM? None.

        I dont care about Ortiz getting hit by right hands. He got hit by hooks, rights, jabs. You name it, Floyd landed it. Based off the Mosley fight, Ortiz was a great opponent. Because Shane was Old remember? But Ortiz was bigger, younger, faster, more aggressive. Before that fight Lampley said no one would fight him. Then after Floyd chose him, Lampley said Floyd only fought him because he doesnt throw jabs. The FACTS are, Ortiz was the absolute best, strongest, youngest fighter at golden boy at that time and was number 2 at ww. If Floyd didnt fight that him, it would be a duck. Its one of Floyd's best wins.

        You say Floyd is a great counterpuncher. No, he is great at everything. No fighter in history is this good. Your comment is basically you finding away to avoid admitting it.

        You say in YOUR opinion he hasnt fought anyone who was a real threat. Well if you admitted that they all were real threats, you may be saying something about Floyd that you dont want to admit. That he is the most skilled fighter in history.

        Would these fighters get humiliated by SRL? No, they would land anything on him. Floyd is the only one who could do what he does.

        I dont care about Canelo being a pressure fighter. Floyd stood in the pocket and made the fight easier for Canelo. My point is, Canelo is WAAY stronger than Herns and SRL skinny azzes. Floyd would walk through them and batter them. It doesnt matter if your a pressure fighter or not. Ortiz is a pressure fighter and Floyd walked him down and made him look the SAME as Canelo. No matter what style you have, Floyd will make you look foolish. And it has nothing to do with pressure. Its Floyd's conditioning. He can move his entire body in the amount of time it takes you to throw 4 fast punches. He can roll his entire body, he can leap to the front row, take a sip of my soda, and jump in the ring to get you with a counter before you stop throwing.

        You wanna talk about SRL? Isnt he the biggest cherrypicker in the history of the sport? Didnt want to fight Hagler until he was old. He only fought Duran because he was a lw, and knew he would beat him easy. He stood flatfooted to make the fight a challenge for himself and lost because he's mentally weak. He didnt want to fight Herns until he felt he saw something. In the rematch with Duran he openly admitted that he knew Duran would gain weight.

        Floyd wouldnt have to do any of that stuff against fighters of that caliber. Because if SRL could beat them with the skillset he had, imagine how bad Floyd would beat them. SRL is overrated to me. But no one speaks about his cherrypicking. Floyd blatantly fought everyone at golden boy, when they were at their best coming off wins. You all just LIED and acted like he fought them because of this or that. SRL has openly admitted to cherrypicking. His whole resume was calculated tbh.

        I dont have any question marks on Floyd. I have seen him do some stuff no other fighter in history could do. Were was SRL, Herns, Ali at the age of 37? Washed up, doing drugs, and losing to Spinks who had 7 fights? Oh but if we're too honest, we may be saying something about Floyd that we dont want to say huh?

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        • Originally posted by I Love Jesus! View Post
          SRL would turn lightweight JMM into a corpse dude
          By how KO'ing him? But could he outbox him and make him look ******? SRL couldnt do that to not ONE of Floyd's opponents. Floyd is the only fighter in history to do what he does. I dont care if he ducked Pac or not. I have seen enough to realize how special Floyd is.

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          • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
            Its funny you say that about JMM considering the fact that Floyd made him look just like the others. Its one of his greatest wins. Even if JMM was washed up after that fight, what fighter in history could do that to JMM? None.

            I dont care about Ortiz getting hit by right hands. He got hit by hooks, rights, jabs. You name it, Floyd landed it. Based off the Mosley fight, Ortiz was a great opponent. Because Shane was Old remember? But Ortiz was bigger, younger, faster, more aggressive. Before that fight Lampley said no one would fight him. Then after Floyd chose him, Lampley said Floyd only fought him because he doesnt throw jabs. The FACTS are, Ortiz was the absolute best, strongest, youngest fighter at golden boy at that time and was number 2 at ww. If Floyd didnt fight that him, it would be a duck. Its one of Floyd's best wins.

            You say Floyd is a great counterpuncher. No, he is great at everything. No fighter in history is this good. Your comment is basically you finding away to avoid admitting it.

            You say in YOUR opinion he hasnt fought anyone who was a real threat. Well if you admitted that they all were real threats, you may be saying something about Floyd that you dont want to admit. That he is the most skilled fighter in history.

            Would these fighters get humiliated by SRL? No, they would land anything on him. Floyd is the only one who could do what he does.

            I dont care about Canelo being a pressure fighter. Floyd stood in the pocket and made the fight easier for Canelo. My point is, Canelo is WAAY stronger than Herns and SRL skinny azzes. Floyd would walk through them and batter them. It doesnt matter if your a pressure fighter or not. Ortiz is a pressure fighter and Floyd walked him down and made him look the SAME as Canelo. No matter what style you have, Floyd will make you look foolish. And it has nothing to do with pressure. Its Floyd's conditioning. He can move his entire body in the amount of time it takes you to throw 4 fast punches. He can roll his entire body, he can leap to the front row, take a sip of my soda, and jump in the ring to get you with a counter before you stop throwing.

            You wanna talk about SRL? Isnt he the biggest cherrypicker in the history of the sport? Didnt want to fight Hagler until he was old. He only fought Duran because he was a lw, and knew he would beat him easy. He stood flatfooted to make the fight a challenge for himself and lost because he's mentally weak. He didnt want to fight Herns until he felt he saw something. In the rematch with Duran he openly admitted that he knew Duran would gain weight.

            Floyd wouldnt have to do any of that stuff against fighters of that caliber. Because if SRL could beat them with the skillset he had, imagine how bad Floyd would beat them. SRL is overrated to me. But no one speaks about his cherrypicking. Floyd blatantly fought everyone at golden boy, when they were at their best coming off wins. You all just LIED and acted like he fought them because of this or that. SRL has openly admitted to cherrypicking. His whole resume was calculated tbh.

            I dont have any question marks on Floyd. I have seen him do some stuff no other fighter in history could do. Were was SRL, Herns, Ali at the age of 37? Washed up, doing drugs, and losing to Spinks who had 7 fights? Oh but if we're too honest, we may be saying something about Floyd that we dont want to say huh?
            Don't ever bring up the great sugar Ray Leonard

            The dude fought prime atg hearns, Benitez, abuyle, plus a very close to prime Duran,,, all in the span of two years...


            How the hell can you cherry pick when you are looked at a shot and damaged fighter coming out of a 5 year hiatus and fighting an atg champ at a weight you have never competed at..

            GTFO with all your nonsense about leonard

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            • Originally posted by PorterIsFuture View Post
              Guerrero is trash. People need to stop sucking up to that scrub. Floyd wiped the floor with him. I don't even like Floyd and I gave him a 12-0 UD win.
              Nah Ghost isnt trash. He gonna beat the snot out of allot of ww's. Your dumbazz thought he was a brawler. He isnt. He is tall tactical pressure swarmer. He makes adjustments on the fly, but hypothetically if he was a dumb fighter, he would still be too big and durable for most of the ww's to deal with. I HATE ghost and its no secret.

              But he can fking FIGHT.

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              • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
                By how KO'ing him? But could he outbox him and make him look ******? SRL couldnt do that to not ONE of Floyd's opponents. Floyd is the only fighter in history to do what he does. I dont care if he ducked Pac or not. I have seen enough to realize how special Floyd is.
                Yeah he could...

                Srl would make jmm look like a novice just like he did Duran in the rematch, and that version of Duran is 100x better than the version of jmm that Floyd fought..

                You speak nonsense

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                • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                  Don't ever bring up the great sugar Ray Leonard

                  The dude fought prime atg hearns, Benitez, abuyle, plus a very close to prime Duran,,, all in the span of two years...


                  How the hell can you cherry pick when you are looked at a shot and damaged fighter coming out of a 5 year hiatus and fighting an atg champ at a weight you have never competed at..

                  GTFO with all your nonsense about leonard
                  SRL aint SHIET. He lost to lightweight. Your talking about a guy who ran around the ring from Herns, with a scared facial expression then all of a sudden he realizes he can hurt Herns, so he has an exaggerrated mean face like he's billy bad ass, while coming forward. Floyd never would do any clown shiet like that. Floyd would stand in front of him with an emotionless face like he doesnt even care. In front of him in the first round and overwhelm a big tall slow fighter like that.

                  SRL got hit by any and EVERY type of fighter. He was good at finding a way to win, but never did anything masterful.

                  Floyd fought JMM, Mosley, Ortiz, Ghost, and Canelo all back to back. Cotto was a shot fighter so I dont throw him in the mix.
                  Last edited by MurkaMan; 03-28-2014, 12:19 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                    That's bad logic... Fighters are gonna lose..

                    I was ringside in St. Louis when Devon undressed Maidana, using your logic what does that say about Floyd now fighting Maidana, a guy who barely got past an old morales...
                    It doesn't look good and you won't be seeing me going oh what a great W for Floyd like all the pac nuts do for Pacquiao

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                    • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                      Yeah he could...

                      Srl would make jmm look like a novice just like he did Duran in the rematch, and that version of Duran is 100x better than the version of jmm that Floyd fought..

                      You speak nonsense
                      So you think SRL running around the ring from Duran is the same as Floyd masterfully outslicking JMM? Its not even close to the same. Yea SRL avoided all the shots in that fight, but by running.

                      Floyd stood in front of JMM, and did all types of defensive dipsy doodles on this man. Floyd is better than he is supposed to be. But if you admitted that, then you may be saying something else that you dont want to say.

                      What is it that you dont want to say?

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