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  • Originally posted by MurkaMan View Post
    For some reason I think this is David. If so I wont blast you in front of everyone. But dont get baited into a Pac vs Floyd argument. This is bigger than that. Maybe Pac could beat him who knows? But could Pac walk him down without being grazed? No fighter in history can. And dont just single out Pac, break down his whole list. The guy doesnt know about boxing.
    Lol, Murkaman thinks his piece belongs in Floyds canon of holy scripture.

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    • Ortiz, Maidana and Guerrero are pointless fight for Floyd no matter how you put it.

      Cotto was decent BUT LATE
      Canelo was decent but drained

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      • Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
        you fail to consider the right sequence of things,.....

        the pulling of jmm 2 classes up and scale cheating came first BEFORE whatever floyd did to jmm that you praise to high heavens happened......

        so in your eyes the end justifies the means? idolatry knows no bounds....
        Name a fighter in history that can pull him up in weight, and do a billion fancy pull counters on him from all angles? Making him look foolish and dumb. Not only that, but Floyd made Mosley, Ortiz, Canelo, Ghost look the same way. Did he pull them all up in weight? See where Im going with this? Did Floyd pull Genero up in weight? If you start being honest you may say something about him that you might not wanna say, and I understand that.

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        • Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
          Floyd was on point vs Hatton... Hatton came to fight, but Floyd tagged that dude all night, and landed one of the best counters I have seen to send Ricky into the corner head first...
          I don't know what fight u watching
          Hatton's footwork overwhelmed Floyd, and yes Floyd rose to the occasion but Floyd probably thought he was going to outbox him like JMM or everyone else he fights. Floyd was slow. Im not saying he DID bad, but he was on the tail end of his career and I dont think he meant for the fight to play out like that. It was sloppy. It was not a boxing lesson, but overall it was an impressive display.

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          • Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
            Floyd is sharp and some what still prime because he has taken two long vacations and went 2-3 years only fighting once a year. So yes you are right he is prime and sharp and top of the game.
            But while washing his balls and cleaning your throat with his co kc you fail to see that it's because of his blatant ducking and perfectly timed vacations that he has been able to extend his career.
            And someone that has done it better and some one Floyd can't touch is BHop. Let's see Floyd take on a prime champion at 46 or 47 like bhop did.
            Bhop is the real cherrypicker. He always fights square fighters, or guys from lower weight classes. He ducked Chad for 3 years, and we saw what happened when they fought. And he will never fight Ward. Now you say Floyd is a ducker right?

            Now take the guys that he DID fight, and name a fighter in history that can make them look clumsey and foolish like Floyd. Not knock them out, not beat them, but possess the skills to change their styles completely in order to dominate them without being grazed?

            Their is none. Floyd is the most skilled fighter in the history of professional pugilism. You think SRL would walk down Canelo without being grazed? He may get his azz knocked out if he tried.

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            • Originally posted by luisivich View Post
              i noticed majority of your post have a "could have" "would have" feel into them. "no boxer in history could have beaten jmm or ortiz as floyd did" "floyd could have beaten srl or duran" " no one in history could have dominate fighters without being grazed as floyd did". seriously you are just a "could have, would have" poster.
              you just couldnt make so many assumptions and claims to be unbiased.
              Am I right or wrong? Your saying that SRL could beat Floyd's opponents without them landing a single shot? I left it up for YOU to answer. He may beat them, he may stop them. But thats not what I asked. I asked YOU to name a fighter in history that has the versitily to fight Floyd's opponents and change their ENTIRE fighting style in order to DOMINATE them without being grazed.

              Since you know their ARE none, you left this comment. Just go away if your basically running from the fact. This comment you left was a waste of my time.

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              • Originally posted by The Noose View Post
                I have already agreed with you that i cant think of another fighter who could of done what Floyd has, in terms of moving up through so many weights and hardly getting hit or losing a round.
                But study Robinsons record. He fought from LW to LHW. There is no comparison between Floyd and Robinson.

                A lot of what you say is silly. You cant dismiss him not fighting Pac, the only ATG he had the chance to face, and still say Floyd is better than any other fighter including Leonard who fought several ATG's and beat them all.

                Its not just about winning, its about who you fought.

                You saying Floyd would walk through Leonard and Hearsn is downright ******ed. Did he walk through Cotto? Castillo? Are they both way better than SRL and Hearns? Canelo is bigger and stronger than both is he? Hearsn went on to become a ****ing Cruiser weight.
                What Robinson did was great. Im not here to talk about Robinson OR Floyd moving up in weight. Robinson possessed the skills of Floyd? And he could do the same moves Floyd did? Because last time I checked, thats what I was asking.

                And yes I CAN dismiss him not fighting Pac, because him not fighting Pac, means that he didnt fight 45 top opponents, and dominate them ALL WITHOUT BEING GRAZED??

                I didnt come here to talk about how many legends he has on his resume, because quite frankly I dont think he has too many.

                I never said it was all about winning. Im talking about SKILLS and dedication. Even if Floyd lost, look at the guys he BEAT and name a fighter in history that could do to them what he did? No fighter in history is this sharp. Thats all Im here to say.

                And you wanna talk about the Castillio fight in which he complained about a bum shoulder from the SECOND round. He didnt make that up after the fight as an excuse. He complained about it at the beginning of the fight.

                You wanna talk about the Cotto fight where everyone here gave Cotto props, yet everyone ALSO noted that Floyd was aging, and looked off.

                So you all took heed to something being wrong with Floyd and you mislabled it as age. The truth is he was OVERTRAINED. His team expressed concern that he was doing too much and trying to impress the new young fighters that started training at the gym at that time. During the first day of camp for the Ghost fight, his father told him, "You need to slow down. Your 36 not 26 so you need to let your body rest"

                Some of you dont know boxing, and said he looked bad because of he lost his legs. He actually used his legs in the last round against Cotto. And he used him the whole fight against Ghost. But against Ghost he was just supremely conditioned because his father had him training better.

                But lets say he LOST to Castillio and Cotto, Name a fighter in history that posses the skills to beat the guys that he DID beat, in the way that he beat him. Because everytime you leave a comment you seem to get off topic and jump around the fact that he is the best fighter you have ever seen. No fighter could do this, and I have seen ALLOT of boxing.

                And btw, what do you think the Floyd who fought Canelo would do to the Floyd who fought Cotto? Why do you have to take the WORSE examples of Floyd? Because that gives you an advantage. Go get SRL in his prime, and throw him in their with 2013 Mayweather and see this skinny man get holes punched through the little defense that he has.

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                • Originally posted by Biolink View Post
                  "Overwhelm" is an overstatement. He had to backstep with Hatton charging like him that. JMM, Mosley, nor Canelo charged him like that with no regard of defense or head movement.

                  To Hatton's credit in recent memory he's the only one that went in there guns blazing against Mayweather, and succeeded in making him uncomfortable at moments in the fight.
                  Its not that Canelo and Mosley didnt charge at him like that, its just that against Canelo he was supremely lightfooted and conditioned. Against Hatton he was over boxing, and he was heavyfooted. It had nothing to do with Canelo not charging at him. When Ghost would budge, Floyd would be on the other side of the ring. Against Hatton, Hatton just had the better footwork, or Floyd just had the worse footwork. But Canelo, Mosley, Ghost would not be able to do that, and they did try. They tried everything. Hatton fought a washed up Mayweather.

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                  • Originally posted by I Love Jesus! View Post
                    Roy Jones was more dominate then Floyd. He went up further to poundage wise.
                    Roy was more dominant than Mayweather? He got hit all the time. Floyd is probably the most dominant fighter in the history of fighting period. No fighter in history will be this sharp EVER.

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                    • Floyd's the most skillful fighter thats ever lived he said.

                      This thread is unbiased he said!

                      What a bumsniff!!!

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