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  • #31
    Originally posted by Weltschmerz View Post
    Ward is so overrated. He beat Kessler with fouling and home judging.
    You know **** about this sport. Ward dominated Kessler with the jab, the right hand and controlled the distance during all the fights. Yes there were many headbutts and clinches, but Kessler didnt do **** to adjust to this. If you think Kessler can beat Ward with another referee and in another place im sorry but youre a total idiot.

    Ward if anything is underrated as hell on this site. This guy had an incredible run and nobody gives him respect. His resume at 30 years old is amazing

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Berry Picker View Post
      Thats what they said about Lacy, Hopkins and Jones.

      Prime Jones and Hopkins would have probably beaten Joe. Joe had difficulty to beat a grandpa version of Hopkins for god sake.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Jcsuper View Post
        You know **** about this sport. Ward dominated Kessler with the jab, the right hand and controlled the distance during all the fights. Yes there were many headbutts and clinches, but Kessler didnt do **** to adjust to this. If you think Kessler can beat Ward with another referee and in another place im sorry but youre a total idiot.

        Ward if anything is underrated as hell on this site. This guy had an incredible run and nobody gives him respect. His resume at 30 years old is amazing
        That particular referee told KESSLER that he was about to be dq'ed for holding! Kessler fought against two men in the ring that night. Two men including Ward's three fisted attack.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Jcsuper View Post
          This ^^^^

          Kessler was outclassed in every aspect of the fights. The headbutts didnt change anything to the fact that Ward dominated him.

          Ward at 30 years old has wins against:
          Dawson
          Froch
          Abraham
          Bika
          Kessler
          Pudwill
          Gold medal
          Super Six Champ

          Calzaghe at 30 years old had wins against :
          Pudwill ?!
          Brewer
          Veit
          Omar mutherf uc1ing Sheika
          Robin Reid
          Chris Eubank
          12 defenses of his WBO Super MW title


          And this but thurt guy Kessler will tell me that Calzaghe is greater than Ward ?! Get the hell out of here
          Ward has had 2 fights since 2011 and I see you left a few more credible wins that Joe had during that span. I added in Pudwill to Ward's stellar resume since you wanted to add his brother or cousin (whichever one he is) in to discredit Joe's resume.

          Calzaghe had already defended his WBO title 12 times by the time he was 30. Ward has only defended his WBA title a whopping 6 times up until today.

          Ward isn't as great as people want to believe he is, 2 of his best wins came against guys that Joe already beat up.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
            That particular referee told KESSLER that he was about to be dq'ed for holding! Kessler fought against two men in the ring that night. Two men including Ward's three fisted attack.
            The referee was a disaster I agree with you. But even with all these **** you can see from the fight that Ward is superior to Kessler.

            People talk like the only thing that went on in the fight were clinches and headbutts and bad referring, but beside all that Ward whooped Kessler. Landed the jab to the body at will, landed most of his jabs, the right hand was connecting most of the time. And Kessler wasnt able to land anything

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            • #36
              Well, Ward hasn't retired yet , time will tell about greatness.

              H2H though it'd be a rather bad match up , Calzaghe would throw his 1000 slaps with Ward likely to land cleaner, better shots.

              Whatever the decision , somebody would be unhappy.

              If Calzaghe loses , his fans will scream robbery . " Joe totally outworked (outslapped) him, Ward only clinched and head butted "

              If Ward loses it'd be "Ward outboxed him , controlled the fight and landed all the significant punches. Joe only slapped like a girl"

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              • #37
                Originally posted by mathed View Post
                Ward has had 2 fights since 2011 and I see you left a few more credible wins that Joe had during that span. I added in Pudwill to Ward's stellar resume since you wanted to add his brother or cousin (whichever one he is) in to discredit Joe's resume.

                Calzaghe had already defended his WBO title 12 times by the time he was 30. Ward has only defended his WBA title a whopping 6 times up until today.

                Ward isn't as great as people want to believe he is, 2 of his best wins came against guys that Joe already beat up.
                I dont care about defense of titles against bums. Ottke did that and that doesnt mean hes an atg.

                And Froch is a better win than all Joe's wins.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Jcsuper View Post
                  The referee was a disaster I agree with you. But even with all these **** you can see from the fight that Ward is superior to Kessler.

                  People talk like the only thing that went on in the fight were clinches and headbutts and bad referring, but beside all that Ward whooped Kessler. Landed the jab to the body at will, landed most of his jabs, the right hand was connecting most of the time. And Kessler wasnt able to land anything
                  I think you need to rewatch. Kessler had Ward wobbled on several occassions and every time ( first one as early as round 2 I believe), Ward leapt forward headfirst into Kessler. That ramming was part of his tactics and Ward knew that Reiss would let it pass.

                  There's a reason why Ward will never fight in his opponents back yard.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Jcsuper View Post
                    I dont care about defense of titles against bums. Ottke did that and that doesnt mean hes an atg.

                    And Froch is a better win than all Joe's wins.
                    Go take a nap, you're drunk.

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                    • #40
                      Only Americans think Ward would beat Joe...

                      Figures.

                      Happy Birthday Joe!

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