Today ATG Joe Calzaghe turns 42

[MisterHardtop]

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You show me 2 clips, one a fight in which Calzaghe won and won clearly against a decent contender and another against a man who is notoriously hard to hit clean. What do you want to prove?

[Scary]

G**** to a former champ, avoided Dawson and Pavlik but took some really great wins, like for example Bernard Hopkins and Chris Eubank. He defended his crown so many times it's in the books. Jeff Lacy might not have been the biggest cat out there, but he was never the same again and Joe was such a big underdog, so in my book it's still a good win. Proved everyone wrong, even more than daggum will care to admit.

I can't understand why all the early stoppages is used against Joe, as if it's his fault or like he wouldn't have won anyways. But I see they're kinda funny some of them.

[LacedUp]

Legend? Nah. Legends dare to be great when it counts.

HOF'er? Certainly. He had that title for a while.

"for a while"

Longest reigning champ at the time - something like 12 years.

[daggum]

G**** to a former champ, avoided Dawson and Pavlik but took some really great wins, like for example Bernard Hopkins and Chris Eubank. He defended his crown so many times it's in the books. Jeff Lacy might not have been the biggest cat out there, but he was never the same again and Joe was such a big underdog, so in my book it's still a good win. Proved everyone wrong, even more than daggum will care to admit.

I can't understand why all the early stoppages is used against Joe, as if it's his fault or like he wouldn't have won anyways. But I see they're kinda funny some of them.

how was eubank a great win? he wasn't even ranked, hadn't beaten anyone legit in years, never won another fight, and was coming down 2 divisions. its similar to canelo's win over mosley if mosley had dropped 2 divisions in order to make the fight.

the odds were nearly even. joe a slight dog some places and a slight favorite others. revisionist history makes it sound like tyson-douglas.

[daggum]

You're really going down the 'beating Dawson at 168' was better than Joe's whole resume? Really?

Man, I don't see a point in this debate any longer.

I can see it's a futile battle as I realize there's no way you can really see this subject objectively.

Take it easy.

i never even said that. i said beating dawson is ten times better than eubank and i think anyone would agree. eubank was a nobody at that time. eubank wasn't ranked in any division while dawson was the linear champ at 175.

[tyger]

Like Calzaghe, underrated and hall of famer.. yes.
"ATG", that depends
on your definition of the term.

Happy bday Joe

[I Love Jesus!]

"for a while"

Longest reigning champ at the time - something like 12 years.

Yeah the wbo joke title that he defended against a monumental amount of bums

[Boxing Goat]

"for a while"

Longest reigning champ at the time - something like 12 years.

I've clearly covered that in this thread.

Simply holding the title doesn't make him a legend though.

[daggum]

Yeah the wbo joke title that he defended against a monumental amount of bums

the previous era had watson, benn, and eubank. well calzaghe's era had calzaghe, thornberry, and starie! guess who came out on top? calzaghe!

this era had the super six. calzaghe was in his own super six. the euros were calzaghe, mger mtchkian, and branko sobot. the americans were manfredo, tocker pudwill, and will mcintyre. guess who won? calzaghe!

[SnakeVen0m]

Calzaghe an ATG?!?

Well done TS, this is a funny ass thread!