Which is greater? Pac offense? Floyd defense?

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  • Beercules
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    #1

    Which is greater? Pac offense? Floyd defense?

    Floyd struggles against natural southpaws. Ortiz and Guerrero aren't natural southpaws.

    Manny is. Juan also says Pacquiao is faster and hits harder than Floyd.

    So...
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    Pacs offense
    39.02%
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    Floyd's defense
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  • hectari
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    #2
    Rigo has better defense than Floyd, so Pacmans offensive is more impressive.

    Its much easier to pot shot and see punches to avoid them, its harder to go up in weight and dominate guys with puro Offensive aggression.

    Floyds defense isn't impressive because he pot shots and only throws a few shots he doesn't go for the kill at all.

    James Toney in his prime was far more impressive he would use the shoulder roll stand in the pocket and trade blows while slipping and had a great offense.
    What toney vs. Iran Barkley, toney looks so small compared to Barkley but James used amazing defense combined with offensive aggression and he was undersized.


    If Floyd tried to throw as many combos as Toney or Pacquiao he would not be undefeated, Floyd when he tried to throw combos on a washed up bloated war torn Cotto he got hit and his accuracy went down. Floyds accuracy is smoke and mirrors, most of his punchs are pot shots or one at a time so of course you will have a high accuracy, but when he threw combos his accuracy droppd, Pacman had a higher punch accuracy against Cotto than Floyd did.

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      #3
      How does Floyd struggle against southpaws?? name one fight that was close with a southpaw

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        #4
        Originally posted by hectari
        Rigo has better defense than Floyd, so Pacmans offensive is more impressive.

        Its much easier to pot shot and see punches to avoid them, its harder to go up in weight and dominate guys with puro Offensive aggression.

        Floyds defense isn't impressive because he pot shots and only throws a few shots he doesn't go for the kill at all.

        James Toney in his prime was far more impressive he would use the shoulder roll stand in the pocket and trade blows while slipping and had a great offense.
        What toney vs. Iran Barkley, toney looks so small compared to Barkley but James used amazing defense combined with offensive aggression and he was undersized.
        How does Rigo have better defense??he has only has 12 fights and has been dropped 2-3 times

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        • jas
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          #5
          i would say pacquaios offense

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            #6
            Pac defense is better than Floyd defense, arguably.

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            • sugarsmosley
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              #7
              Originally posted by LarryXXX
              How does Rigo have better defense??he has only has 12 fights and has been dropped 2-3 times
              lol its his opinion and he explained why he believes that in the post you replied to mang

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                #8
                Originally posted by LarryXXX
                How does Rigo have better defense??he has only has 12 fights and has been dropped 2-3 times
                This. Been seeing a bunch of people say Rigo or Lara have better defense. Like how you figure?

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by sugarsmosley
                  lol its his opinion and he explained why he believes that in the post you replied to mang
                  Just a question but where did he really explain that, he did not talk about Rigondeaux at any great length, so........ I can't see how that is explaining what he stated in the first sentence.

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                  • hectari
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by sugarsmosley
                    lol its his opinion and he explained why he believes that in the post you replied to mang
                    Exactly, Most of these Floyd fans don't even bother reading a whole post they see a trigger sentence that ticks them off and they respond to it. i basically said why Floyd doesn't get knocked out he rarely opens up, and when he did he got hurt and bloodied up.

                    Rigo got dropped those times becaues he was throwing combos and going for a KO.

                    If Floyd opened up as much as Pacman he wouldn't be undefeated right now. Floyd basically just uses the roll and pot shots guys, its not impressive, if you are an old school boxing fan like myself you have seen that style on guys like georgie benton, ezzard charles.

                    Niccolino Locche used the shoulder roll and counters but he looked better than Floyd doing it.

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