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  • {BrownBomber}
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    #41
    Originally posted by DLT
    Your just mad because Morales got his ass whooped and wouldve lost to Chaves if he had 2 hands
    I dont really like Morales. I will go for him unless he is fighting Barrera or some of the other top fighters in his weight. Right now im representing my Raza.

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      #42
      Originally posted by DLT
      Did you see how good Mayorga did against Tito all the way at 160. Mayorga would probally knock Shane and Oscar out. Who has Shane beat except for Oscar? Name one good fighter, and not to mention he got destroyed twice by Forrest, and Winky. When was the last time Oscar looked good? He got KO by Hopkins, really lost to Sturm, lost to Mosley, beat a washed up Vargas but didnt look that good, lost to Tito, lost to Mosley, argubally lost to Quartey, and really lost to Whittaker. You act like these guys were dominating 147. The both left with 2 recent losses
      Shane Mosley looked incredible against John John Molina, that was an incredible body shot he landed. DLH was so underzized at 154 and 160, I gave him a pass on some of his subpar performances. DLH was humiliating Tito until he self destructed. Losing to Whitaker, what a shame. I had Quartey with a 6-5 advantage going into the 12th, and DLH showed his championship heart in that round. Spinks benefitted from some questionable calls from the referee against Spinks. The hitting after the bell and the other deduction were bogus, and the "push" call n the 12th was actually a knockdown. Plus Mayorga was the aggressor, and that should've given him the edge in some of the nondescript rounds.

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      • DLT
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        #43
        Originally posted by asian_sensation
        Shane Mosley looked incredible against John John Molina, that was an incredible body shot he landed. DLH was so underzized at 154 and 160, I gave him a pass on some of his subpar performances. DLH was humiliating Tito until he self destructed. Losing to Whitaker, what a shame. I had Quartey with a 6-5 advantage going into the 12th, and DLH showed his championship heart in that round. Spinks benefitted from some questionable calls from the referee against Spinks. The hitting after the bell and the other deduction were bogus, and the "push" call n the 12th was actually a knockdown. Plus Mayorga was the aggressor, and that should've given him the edge in some of the nondescript rounds.
        Me and you usally agree on most things so I wont argue with you. I dont think Spinks is the greatest fighter in the world but I dont see Mosley or Oscar blowing him away. I thought you were one of the few who are like me and like the boxing side of it. Mayorga was agressive but he was missing and hitting Spinks in the back of the head

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          #44
          Originally posted by BROWN BOMBER
          I dont really like Morales. I will go for him unless he is fighting Barrera or some of the other top fighters in his weight. Right now im representing my Raza.
          Its all good man, I just thought you were hatin on Floyd a littile too hard

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            #45
            Originally posted by DLT
            Me and you usally agree on most things so I wont argue with you. I dont think Spinks is the greatest fighter in the world but I dont see Mosley or Oscar blowing him away. I thought you were one of the few who are like me and like the boxing side of it. Mayorga was agressive but he was missing and hitting Spinks in the back of the head
            Hey, I enjoy a good boxer with science and all, I'm just saying it means nothing to beat Mayorga and Judah when you juxtapose it to the resumes' of De La Hoya and Mosley. Spinks makes Spadafora look like Gatti.

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            • whdempsey
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              #46
              I think you're not quite right, but not entirely wrong either. They're both going to be more successful than they would at any other weight. But neither of them is going to be the champ he was before. Still, I would be De la Hoya or Mosley to beat both Judah and Spinks, and the list of contenders that you had up there included quite a few junior welters. Saying that in order to dominate a division you also have to beat everyone in the division below it is a little insane. Still, I see what you're getting at.

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                #47
                Originally posted by DLT
                When was the last time they knocked someone out and when have you seen Floyd KO. Until that happeneds then you cant say that. You act likes he's 3 divisions away. but let me guess; they wouldnt knock the others out would they?
                PBF @ 140lbs and DLh was @ 160, so that leaves 140,147,154 and 160, so yeah 3 division away, but now since both Dlh and Mosley will go back to 147 lbs, maybe PBF might get a chance to face one of them, DLH said he would never fight him,because of his trainer and Mosley, I am sure that mosley would beat PBF via KO/Tko,

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by bigdlb12
                  PBF @ 140lbs and DLh was @ 160, so that leaves 140,147,154 and 160, so yeah 3 division away, but now since both Dlh and Mosley will go back to 147 lbs, maybe PBF might get a chance to face one of them, DLH said he would never fight him,because of his trainer and Mosley, I am sure that mosley would beat PBF via KO/Tko,
                  I'd agree, the size difference is just too much

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                    #49
                    What size difference? There bigger but Floyd has been boxing bigger guys his whole life. He has a style where he can go up to the higher weights. If you think Shane and Oscar would dominate him and KO him then your crazy. Your just saying that because it's Oscar and Shane. If it was Forrest then you wouldnt say that he would KO Floyd but yet he destroyed Mosley and most had him favored to beat Oscar if they wouldve met. My point is that Shane wasnt as good as people thought. He lost at 147. People are acting like he didnt lose until he moved up to 154. He hasnt beaten one good fighter except for Oscar. If you think that Oscar will KO Floyd then your crazy. Gatti even looked good against a prime Oscar at 147 but he was too small. Now take a prime Mayweather against a past his prime Oscar and you think he will KO him. Gatti hit him way more then a great fighter should be hit

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      What size difference? There bigger but Floyd has been boxing bigger guys his whole life. He has a style where he can go up to the higher weights. If you think Shane and Oscar would dominate him and KO him then your crazy. Your just saying that because it's Oscar and Shane. If it was Forrest then you wouldnt say that he would KO Floyd but yet he destroyed Mosley and most had him favored to beat Oscar if they wouldve met. My point is that Shane wasnt as good as people thought. He lost at 147. People are acting like he didnt lose until he moved up to 154. He hasnt beaten one good fighter except for Oscar. If you think that Oscar will KO Floyd then your crazy. Gatti even looked good against a prime Oscar at 147 but he was too small. Now take a prime Mayweather against a past his prime Oscar and you think he will KO him. Gatti hit him way more then a great fighter should be hit
                      man DLT you must really know what you are talking about, Damn how do you do it?

                      De La Hoya landed 195 of 313 total punches (62%), while Gatti landed only 87 of 308 (28%).

                      Gatti was down in the 1st round by an Oscar De la hoya Uppercutt and was stopped in the 5th.

                      And both Gatti and PBF are 5'8" Gatti has 70" in reach while PBF has 72"

                      I am not saying that DLH will KO/TKO PBF that fast,but it is likely,Last 2 guys that DLH KO/TKO was a juiced up Vargas and a Yori Boy Campas, both hard hitters and faced them in his last 5 fights
                      Last edited by bigdlb12; 01-21-2005, 07:40 PM.

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