Oscar & Shane will not dominate 147

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  • DLT
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    Oscar & Shane will not dominate 147

    You guys are living in the past if you think they will dominate everone. Oscar and Shane would have problems with Spinks, Judah, Mayorga, Floyd, Zoo, and probally Cotto, Margarito, and Cintron also. Oscar & Shane are both much older now and past their primes. Oscar hasnt really outright won a fight in a long time besides a washedup Vargas. He got KO by Hopkins, he really lost to Sturm, and he lost to Mosley. He is much slower and weaker now and that wasnt just because of the weight. He has become a more fragile fighter with Mayweather training him.

    Mosley lost 2 fights to Winky and 2 fights to Forrest so why do you think these guys will dominate these great fighters. They are much older now and they are lacking confidence. They werent even that great at 147 as you guys make it out to be. Mosley didnt beat 1 good fighter excepet for Oscar and the minute he stepped up he got destroyed by Forrest. Oscar at 147 also lost to Mosley, Tito, and really lost to Whitaker and I think he lost to Quartey so why do you keep acting like these guys were all world.

    Theres no way that they would just walk through Spinks, Judah, Mayorga, Floyd, and Zoo. Actually I would pick both of them to lose most of these fights. Both of them are very easy to hit now and neither has that great speed anymore. Another thing is 147 might be to small for them. They are both so fake. The whole time they were saying that theres no way they could make 147 again but now all of asuddend they act like it's a piece of cake. Give me a break. They will be better at 147 but I still dont think there good enough to beat the top guys I named on the first list and definatly not good enough to blow any of them away
  • m00ks
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    #2
    I think you're forgetting just how good they we're at a lower weight....

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      #3
      Originally posted by m00ks
      I think you're forgetting just how good they we're at a lower weight....
      Im not forgetting and I definatly dont want to disrespect them because I think they were great fighters, but they werent unbeatable and I dont want others to keep disrespecting the guys who are at 140-147 now because they are better then people give them credit for

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        #4
        Another thread in which DLT found a way to mention PBFs name in.

        Floyd is too small.DLH and Mosely would both beat him and probably Knock him out.

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          #5
          Originally posted by jpboxer3
          Another thread in which DLT found a way to mention PBFs name in.

          Floyd is too small.DLH and Mosely would both beat him and probably Knock him out.
          When was the last time they knocked someone out and when have you seen Floyd KO. Until that happeneds then you cant say that. You act likes he's 3 divisions away. but let me guess; they wouldnt knock the others out would they?

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            #6
            Originally posted by DLT
            When was the last time they knocked someone out and when have you seen Floyd KO. Until that happeneds then you cant say that. You act likes he's 3 divisions away. but let me guess; they wouldnt knock the others out would they?

            Wait until PBF actually beats a top5 140 pound fighter before saying he'd give DLH and Mosely problems.At the pace PBFs going in his career,he wont fight Mosely or DLH in another 5yrs,then maybe i'd give him a shot at beating both.Right now,DLH and Mosely would kill him at 147

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              #7
              Originally posted by jpboxer3
              Wait until PBF actually beats a top5 140 pound fighter before saying he'd give DLH and Mosely problems.At the pace PBFs going in his career,he wont fight Mosely or DLH in another 5yrs,then maybe i'd give him a shot at beating both.Right now,DLH and Mosely would kill him at 147
              I want you to name one fighter at 140 who has fought someone in the top 5. The only one you could say is Zoo and you cant even really say that because he hasnt beanten any of the top guys there now like Floyd, Hatton, Cotto, Gatti, or Harris. Floyd beat Chop in his first fight which is a bigger win then any of the others besides Zoo. Look man, I know you dont like Floyd and you know where I stand in this debate but this thread isnt about him so lets keep it on the topic. Damn, are you going to do this everytime I make a thread?
              Last edited by DLT; 01-20-2005, 02:38 PM.

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                #8
                I think Mosley is the only fighter I would pick to KO Mayweather.

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                • DLT
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by asian_sensation
                  I think Mosley is the only fighter I would pick to KO Mayweather.
                  I cant see it. Mosley is a great fighter but is overated because he looks furious when he swings but if you keep your guard up it wont hurt you and he has a horrible defense. I think Floyd wins this one. By the way what do you think of what I said about Shane and Oscar dominating?

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                  • m00ks
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by DLT
                    Im not forgetting and I definatly dont want to disrespect them because I think they were great fighters, but they werent unbeatable and I dont want others to keep disrespecting the guys who are at 140-147 now because they are better then people give them credit for
                    Both DLH and Mosley can still dominate 147. The only guy I see giving Oscar a hard time stylewise is Judah, mainly cuz he's a fast southpaw. When being boxed, Cotto's short arms are rendered ineffective. I don't know how much of Tszyu's power would carry over at 147 and I think the weight would be too much for Mayweather. Spinks is way too weak to hurt either fighter who already tasted a lot stronger punches at a higher weight class.

                    I don't think either man is easy to hit, specially DLH. They would be a lot quicker now at 147 than at 154. They have very sound skills and they also have the experience. They will both dominate...

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