Oscar & Shane will not dominate 147

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  • SweetScience
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    #11
    I don't think they can dominate, like beating all those guys. But I do believe Oscar or Shane can gain the titles of the winner of Spinks/Judah. Defending the titles is a different story. Judah is an easy fight for both Oscar and Shane. Spinks on the other hand is pretty slick and can pose problems for both guys. I would pick Oscar or Shane to win still. The rest fo the guys would have to dominate Oscar or Shane like winning by KO. I don't see them getting a decision on these two guys unless it's a blowout. Oscar has never been blownout and Shane has once but against a guy that has his number. Big factor for both guys is that the judges love them.

    Main thing though is we have to see what effect the weight loss will have on both fighters.

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    • ferociouso
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      #12
      maybe

      it's possible but don't forget cotto, mayweather and spinks plus I can see oscar dominate but mosley will have to prove himself. I hope vargas will knock everybody out but thet maybe won't happen : to small at middle

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      • DLT
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        #13
        Originally posted by m00ks
        Both DLH and Mosley can still dominate 147. The only guy I see giving Oscar a hard time stylewise is Judah, mainly cuz he's a fast southpaw. When being boxed, Cotto's short arms are rendered ineffective. I don't know how much of Tszyu's power would carry over at 147 and I think the weight would be too much for Mayweather. Spinks is way too weak to hurt either fighter who already tasted a lot stronger punches at a higher weight class.

        I don't think either man is easy to hit, specially DLH. They would be a lot quicker now at 147 than at 154. They have very sound skills and they also have the experience. They will both dominate...
        DLH has been very easy to hit latley. Also no matter what you say these guys are still past their prime so to think they will easily beat all these young top notch fighters is crazy. They wont be super fast at these weights because they are older and you have to also remember that these other guys are also super fast. If you dont look faster then the bigger slower guys at 154-160 then why would you look so much faster then the guys at 147. Also Spinks is better then you give him credit for. What does power mean? Ali and Sweet Pea didnt have power. Thats what everyone said when he fought Mayorga, that he wouldnt be able to hold him off with that weak power but what happened. Boxing is an art. Also Mayorga is coming back to 147 and they wont dominate him

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        • Clay AikSkins
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          I think DLH and Mosely are too strong and too skilled for anyone currently in 140-147. They both have tested chins and have faced far superior competition than they will the 2nd go around. Can Spinks deal with Shanes strength and hand speed? He just barely got by Zab. Can Spinks out box and out punch Oscar no way.

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          • m00ks
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            #15
            Originally posted by DLT
            DLH has been very easy to hit latley. Also no matter what you say these guys are still past their prime so to think they will easily beat all these young top notch fighters is crazy. They wont be super fast at these weights because they are older and you have to also remember that these other guys are also super fast. If you dont look faster then the bigger slower guys at 154-160 then why would you look so much faster then the guys at 147. Also Spinks is better then you give him credit for. What does power mean? Ali and Sweet Pea didnt have power. Thats what everyone said when he fought Mayorga, that he wouldnt be able to hold him off with that weak power but what happened. Boxing is an art. Also Mayorga is coming back to 147 and they wont dominate him
            K I KNOW you didn't just say Ali had no power Anyweyz, Spinks ain't no Whitaker. If he was able to outbox Mayorga, DLH can make the latter look like a fool. Man has more skills and tricks than Corey. Power don't mean much if you have the speed advantage to cope with it. But if you don't have power and the guy you're facing is just as fast, you won't get far. DLH and Mosley will never be as quick as when they were at their prime but I wouldn't exactly call them "slow".

            Those bigger and "slower" guys were at their natural weight. Winky's been at 154 forever, Hopkins ain't slow and Sturm had a lazer jab. DLH and Mosely aren't at their natural weight so OF COURSE they will be slower than they once were. At 147, they will be much more competitive. They moved up weight to seek tougher competition because they were able to dominate at a lower weight class. Now they're back and trust me, they WILL dominate.

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            • m00ks
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              #16
              Originally posted by Clay AikSkins
              I think DLH and Mosely are too strong and too skilled for anyone currently in 140-147. They both have tested chins and have faced far superior competition than they will the 2nd go around. Can Spinks deal with Shanes strength and hand speed? He just barely got by Zab. Can Spinks out box and out punch Oscar no way.
              Exactly. At 147 they both have more speed and power. deadly combination.

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              • DLT
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                #17
                Originally posted by m00ks
                K I KNOW you didn't just say Ali had no power Anyweyz, Spinks ain't no Whitaker. If he was able to outbox Mayorga, DLH can make the latter look like a fool. Man has more skills and tricks than Corey. Power don't mean much if you have the speed advantage to cope with it. But if you don't have power and the guy you're facing is just as fast, you won't get far. DLH and Mosley will never be as quick as when they were at their prime but I wouldn't exactly call them "slow".

                Those bigger and "slower" guys were at their natural weight. Winky's been at 154 forever, Hopkins ain't slow and Sturm had a lazer jab. DLH and Mosely aren't at their natural weight so OF COURSE they will be slower than they once were. At 147, they will be much more competitive. They moved up weight to seek tougher competition because they were able to dominate at a lower weight class. Now they're back and trust me, they WILL dominate.
                Ali doesn have hardly any power so I dont know what your talking about and as far as Shane and Oscar moving up because the were dominating 147 did you read my first thread. They moved up because they were losing. Oscar lost to Tito and Shane and really lost to Whittaker and probally Quartey. Shane had just lost twice to Forrest so where do you get this domination from

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                • Clay AikSkins
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                  If you saw Oscar fight Whitaker there is no way you can say Oscar lost. Oscar beat the total **** out of Whit. Oscars fights against Shane were close but Shane did beat him. The tito fight Oscar won hands down. Come on bro.....put down the corona and weed. Get some coffee in you now.

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                  • DLT
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Clay AikSkins
                    If you saw Oscar fight Whitaker there is no way you can say Oscar lost. Oscar beat the total **** out of Whit. Oscars fights against Shane were close but Shane did beat him. The tito fight Oscar won hands down. Come on bro.....put down the corona and weed. Get some coffee in you now.
                    What are you talking about? Most who saw that fight thought that Sweet Pea won and alot of people also thought that Quartey won. Put down the crack

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                    • m00ks
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by DLT
                      Ali doesn have hardly any power so I dont know what your talking about and as far as Shane and Oscar moving up because the were dominating 147 did you read my first thread. They moved up because they were losing. Oscar lost to Tito and Shane and really lost to Whittaker and probally Quartey. Shane had just lost twice to Forrest so where do you get this domination from
                      Ali had a 60% KO percentage in which FOREMAN, LISTON & FRAZIER were among his victims. And you're saying he hardly had power?!?!?! It ain't even worth debating with someone with your mentality...

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