My thought about catch-weights

[FrankieClutch]

Just because a fighter agrees to it, doesnt make it fair. If you come into another weight class, you should be fighting at the limit or dont go up there. There are 17 weight classes as is.

If you think you'll have a better chance at beating the fighter because its at a catchweight, how exactly do you think youll have a bigger chance? By hopping it weakens him of course

I agree with the bolded. I'd much rather have fighters just go the full weight division, but once fighter B agrees, I can't make an excuse for him. He agreed to it on his own free will, no one held a gun to his head (that we know of lol).

The point I'm making is: Do I like them? No. I think they shouldn't exist. I'm simply saying that I can't make excuses about them because they are agreed upon.

[Evol]

The only problem, respectfully, is that guys who agree to CW's do so because the money they will make is far greater than another fight. So to say "well they agreed" is true-but when not agreeing could cost a fighter millions of dollars then its really complicated.

so if someone says i'll pay u 6mil to jump off a 3 story building but chances are u might not survive, are u gonna take the money just because it'll be the most u'll ever get?? come on dunn, they accept the cw because they feel they can make it and still be comfortable enough to beat the other guy.

[Russian Crushin]

I agree with the bolded. I'd much rather have fighters just go the full weight division, but once fighter B agrees, I can't make an excuse for him. He agreed to it on his own free will, no one held a gun to his head (that we know of lol).

The point I'm making is: Do I like them? No. I think they shouldn't exist. I'm simply saying that I can't make excuses about them because they are agreed upon.

So if a promotor asks his fighter to take a dive, and he agrees with it, we should be ok with it since he agreed?

[The Big Dunn]

so if someone says i'll pay u 6mil to jump off a 3 story building but chances are u might not survive, are u gonna take the money just because it'll be the most u'll ever get?? come on dunn, they accept the cw because they feel they can make it and still be comfortable enough to beat the other guy.

Jumping off a building isn't someone's job evol. Please, think and try to use some level of common sense.

No they do not. Take Miguel for instance-when he took the Manny fight at 145 that was his only lucrative option. So he took it. When the rematch offer came he refused. why? He has Sergio, Canelo and a floyd rematch as options.

There are a few times when CW's are mutually made so fighters can meet in the middle.

[FrankieClutch]

So if a promotor asks his fighter to take a dive, and he agrees with it, we should be ok with it since he agreed?

Lol that's a whole different circumstance. You can't take everything at face value man. That's like asking if it's okay that a judge fixed a fight because he agreed to it. Everything isn't face value.

[intoccabile]

It's common sense that anytime you're first to maintain a caloric deficit for longer, you're going to deplete yourself. That's the first rule of nutrition. Fighters don't understand this during catch weights. I'm disapointed that the world class nutritionists they bring in aren't consulted with first - or are they so ignorant as to think their methods are goign to prevent history from repeating itself?

Fighters diet. Going from surplus to deficit is huge. At a catchweight, the consumption of carbs (depending on the weight, and how hard it is for the fighter to make his NORMAL weight) is crucial. Completely removing them from your diet altogether spells dizaster, and many fighters go through camp expelling all carbs for a long duration to do so.

[Zarco]

Yes both fighters agree. Of course they are going to, there is thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars, and millions at stake. These people are in boxing to make money and provide for themselves and their families. Sometimes one side is the only one asking for a catch weight not just for randoms sake, but because they see it to their advantage. Every catch weight fight is different and every human body is different. Some human bodies can lose more pounds than others. Some times the fighter is affected by the catch weight on different levels, sometimes they are not...no body knows besides the fighter. People that say one or two pounds dont matter are talking naive. They wouldnt know because only the boxer knows what hes feeling and what is going on with his body. A pound or two can make the difference for certain fighters in certain bouts. There are boxers who reach a maximum level of dehydration where they miss weight at the weigh ins by a pound or 2 and theyve done all they can so they accept it and they start drinking their fluids immediately. There are other boxers who look like they made weight in a healthy manner and dont look so affected by the limit. So, yes there are certain catchweight bouts that I dont mind, but there are certain catchweigh bouts that should just not happen.

[LoadedWraps]

People on this site LOVE bashing catch-weights. It's a bit ridiculous.

Do I like catch-weights? Not really. Could I do without them? Yeah. However, BOTH fighters have to agree on the weight. People act like one fighter puts a gun to the other's head and makes them agree on a weight.

How can I call [fighter A] a p.ssy for requesting a catch-weight when [fighter B] agreed to it?? Obviously [fighter B] thought he could make that weight, so that's on him.

If both fighters agree to it, then there should be no excuses. Am I the only one who feels this way?

Word on the streets is that Manny is the Catchweight King.

[Ham Porter]

These ******s who make such a big issue out of catchweights haven't been following this sport very long, nor are they aware of it's history. If they did, they'd realise just how old, just how common catchweights actually are in this sport.


And one giant @ Big Dumb being banned.

[Rapid Counter]

If catch weights didnt weaken fighters then nobody would ask for them in the first place.

I dont like catchweights but if a fighter agrees to the weight thats on him.

I have a much bigger problem with lazy ass fighters who dont even try to make weight while the other fighter is busting his ass to make weight.