My thought about catch-weights

[FrankieClutch]

because after it's over the loser might go back and make an excuse about the weight, pretending he didn't say it's a non factor beforehand

I especially don't like when a fighter uses the excuse after a loss. Does a catch-weight affect a fighter? Maybe (although I think it's much more psychological than physical in most cases), but once you agree to it then you can't use is as an excuse

[FrankieClutch]

I don't like when a champion is forced into defending his title under the weight max of the division.

I can understand that. Like I said in the OP, do I like them? Not really. But if it's agreed upon then it's on the fighter

[The Tase]

people really need to step back and use their brains and figure the fact that catch weight criticisms are totally irrelevant due to the 24 hr rehydration system.

you can weigh in as a welterweight then come fight night you become a junior middleweight, many come in as middleweights. Some as high as super middles.

Its an abomination. Same day weigh ins need to be re instituted.

[The Big Dunn]

I especially don't like when a fighter uses the excuse after a loss. Does a catch-weight affect a fighter? Maybe (although I think it's much more psychological than physical in most cases), but once you agree to it then you can't use is as an excuse

The only problem, respectfully, is that guys who agree to CW's do so because the money they will make is far greater than another fight. So to say "well they agreed" is true-but when not agreeing could cost a fighter millions of dollars then its really complicated.

[The Tase]

catch weights are nothing more than placebos that gives fighters a false sense of advantage.

[Jack Napier]

I especially don't like when a fighter uses the excuse after a loss. Does a catch-weight affect a fighter? Maybe (although I think it's much more psychological than physical in most cases), but once you agree to it then you can't use is as an excuse

Cotto was fine in the Pac fight, he weighed 146 vs Clottey just prior
he said categorically the catchweight wasn't a problem
his problem was, if it's 145, he shouldn't have to defend his belt
but the man said making 145 in itself was no problem at all
he lost, then turned around and cried like a ho

[FrankieClutch]

people really need to step back and use their brains and figure the fact that catch weight criticisms are totally irrelevant due to the 24 hr rehydration system.

you can weigh in as a welterweight then come fight night you become a junior middleweight, many come in as middleweights. Some as high as super middles.

Its an abomination. Same day weigh ins need to be re instituted.

I agree! (although I don't agree that same day weigh ins should be instituted lol). That's why I said I think it's much more psychological than physical.

The only problem, respectfully, is that guys who agree to CW's do so because the money they will make is far greater than another fight. So to say "well they agreed" is true-but when not agreeing could cost a fighter millions of dollars then its really complicated.

I've heard that argument and while it holds some weight, fighters shouldn't agree to anything that they feel will hinder their performance significantly for any amount of cash. That said, it's easy for me to say without a $10 million offer sitting in front of me! lol

[The Big Dunn]

I agree! (although I don't agree that same day weigh ins should be instituted lol). That's why I said I think it's much more psychological than physical.



I've heard that argument and while it holds some weight, fighters shouldn't agree to anything that they feel will hinder their performance significantly for any amount of cash. That said, it's easy for me to say without a $10 million offer sitting in front of me! lol

Its a job dude. Gotta go with the money even if it makes you less likely to win.

If you are Canelo-fighting floyd at 152 gets you $12 mil. fighting angulo at 154 got you $3- 4 mil (about). thats $8-9 million dollars.

I don't know about you, but my money tree only has $1.2 on it lol.

[FrankieClutch]

Its a job dude. Gotta go with the money even if it makes you less likely to win.

If you are Canelo-fighting floyd at 152 gets you $12 mil. fighting angulo at 154 got you $3- 4 mil (about). thats $8-9 million dollars.

I don't know about you, but my money tree only has $1.2 on it lol.

I definitely hear that. It's basically the same argument for the NCAA athletes and if they should get paid. The reason they accept the cash before they make it pro is because none of us (especially athletes) are promised tomorrow. Might as well milk it!

[Russian Crushin]

Just because a fighter agrees to it, doesnt make it fair. If you come into another weight class, you should be fighting at the limit or dont go up there. There are 17 weight classes as is.

If you think you'll have a better chance at beating the fighter because its at a catchweight, how exactly do you think youll have a bigger chance? By hopping it weakens him of course