Marquez is a pretty average fighter(resume wise), yet he beat Pacquaio 4 /4 of times.

[PACnPBFsuck]

TS knows his stuff

[ramses07]

I have the series at 2 wins PAC, 1 for JMM, and 1 draw.
At best, I have it 2 wins for each ...2-2.

But JMM has the most definitive, memorable win. However, both were past their prime at the time of PAC-JMM 4.

PAC-JMM 2 is the fight to best show this matchup. They were both pretty PRIME at the time. Really close fight with high level boxing. I gave the fight to PAC due to the knockdown. The rounds were close.
PAC was the champ, scored the knockdown.. Decision goes to PAC.

JMM was no longer in his prime at JMM/pac-2, he was 34, and had lost his legs, pac was in his tho

but thats probably when they were closer to their respective primes.

[Shambrolic]

JMM actually fought more legitimate competition and gave Pacquiao hell in each match which is why Pacquiao can never get JMM off his back. JMM is definitely a great fighter and a very intelligent technician. I recommend people looking at his bouts at lightweight, against Katasidis and Juan Diaz. The way he systematically deduce fighters to beat them viciously with counters as combinations is some of the most beautiful boxing in history.

Many people will look at that this Pacquiao- Marquez fight in hindsight and I believe will give Marquez his rightful props. When it's all said and done.. Public record will determine who was greater.

[Holywarrior]

I have it 2-2 personally.

[Strategic1]

JMM was no longer in his prime at JMM/pac-2, he was 34, and had lost his legs, pac was in his tho

but thats probably when they were closer to their respective primes.

I agree with this. Most athletes are past their prime when they reach their 30s. It's the truth. Testosterone levels, peak physical performance are at its highest in the early to mid twenties. Between 27-32 years of age, experience and wits come into play. So you can still dominate the competition and still in effect be in your prime. JMM has dominated because of his ring smarts and boxing IQ. That's why he can still compete in his late 30s and now 40's.

In a sport like boxing, it's very rare to have world class boxers after 32. Floyd, JMM, and PAC are rare breeds.

Yea, JMM-PAC 2 was when both were closest to their primes.

[Strategic1]

It's a shame JMM never fought Morales. It just isn't right how they never fought.

PAC-JMM-Barrera-Morales ...4 of the best fighters EVER in the lower divisions.
But JMM-Morales never happened.

[Strategic1]

I think KTFO 6, woke Manny up to the reality that he can't rely that heavily on his physical attributes as much. He has to rely on his boxing IQ and experience more so. PAC lazily went in for the punch with a little feint. It was a sign of fatigue late in the round. A younger PAC would never get caught like that. Slower reaction times sign of aging. Even the 1st knockdown, PAC in his younger days would see the punch coming and avoid it.

That's why we saw a different PAC against Rios.

[hugh grant]

What does that make Pacquaio, a Journeyman?. To top it off he was Ko'd by him, how much do you rekon this will affect his legacy?

Well JMM isn't average, he is p4p top 5 so look at it like that.
Pac was only knocked cos he gave him 4 tries to do it, and he was pacs style nightmare.
Pac made Bradley look like a journeyman and many other very good fighters look pedestrian so does that not count?

Floyd lost to Castillo and Castillo hasn't a great resume as well. How much do you think that will effect Floyds legacy, and not fighting Pac and fighting guys who lost to Pacs sparring partner rather than fighting Sergio and Bradley like Pac is doing now.?

[straightleft]

What does that make Pacquaio, a Journeyman?. To top it off he was Ko'd by him, how much do you rekon this will affect his legacy?

You are a floydiot alt so your opinion is not worth more than my shit. Are you done robbing convenience stores or collecting food coupons?

[V.WEBB]

Manny is a fraud. End of.