Marquez is a pretty average fighter(resume wise), yet he beat Pacquaio 4 /4 of times.

**sugarsmosley** · 03-12-2014, 11:20 PM

decent alt

**DeadLikeMe** · 03-12-2014, 11:20 PM

Pac was already a higher ranking ATG than JMM before KTFO6 and he is still a higher ranking ATG after. The first thing people think of when they think of Pac however, will be KTFO6. Take from it what you will.

**Johnwoo8686** · 03-12-2014, 11:24 PM

To Me Marquez defeated Pacquiao twice. I feel Juan deserved a draw in the first fight but lost the second fight by a small margin (mostly due to the knockdown).
And feel he won the third fight with Manny. We all know what happened in the fourth fight.

**TRTboy** · 03-12-2014, 11:25 PM

Marquez was born to give pacman the business LOL. You look at who has pacman beat and I can tell you if marquez fought the guys pacman fought he'd have way more losses.

Styles make fights and marquez has the perfect style to beat pac's.

**El Malo.** · 03-12-2014, 11:34 PM

Originally posted by TRTboy

Marquez was born to give pacman the business LOL. You look at who has pacman beat and I can tell you if marquez fought the guys pacman fought he'd have way more losses.

Styles make fights and marquez had the marquez style to beat pacman.

If Marquez would be able to go up in weight without it affecting him like Manny I guarantee you that he would give the same guys Manny fought the business.

**Luilun** · 03-13-2014, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Southpaw110

What does that make Pacquaio, a Journeyman?. To top it off he was Ko'd by him, how much do you rekon this will affect his legacy?

I think your analysis is ******

**The Problem** · 03-13-2014, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by Luilun

I think your analysis is ******

But they're valid tho

**Guest** · 03-13-2014, 01:20 AM

Originally posted by Luilun

I think your analysis is ******

I think so too. It's kind of like saying the earth is flat, and then trying to prove something else based on that.

JMM isn't and never was "average".

Unlikeable and whiny at times yes, but average, never.

**GOD-FR33** · 03-13-2014, 01:48 AM

You are going too far with saying that Marquez won 4 times. He lost the first three fights because Manny always out-throws him, and out lands him. In the 4th encounter, I believe that Marquez cheated. He has never been stronger than Manny or bigger physically. There's no way a 40yrold fighter KO's a fighter like Manny, without something extra in him. That win will always have an asterisk by it and rightfully so.

Marquez is a pretty average fighter(resume wise), yet he beat Pacquaio 4 /4 of times.