Could Marcos Maidana's rabbit punches rough up Floyd Mayweather?

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  • Espy
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    #31
    Originally posted by Syf
    Maidana also has a stong jab, a straight rangey 1-2 and that deceptive left hook... youre only worried about the overhand?
    Okay well two can play this game buddy

    Floyd has

    -A strong jab which he rarely uses because he hardly ever needs to.
    -Faster handspeed
    -the pull counter
    -Better defensive positioning
    -Better footwork
    -The philly shell
    -A better 1-2 than Maidana as it lands at a much higher percentage
    -better reflexes
    -higher boxing IQ
    -The counter and lead right hand which can be thrown straight or as a deceptive hook that appears like a straight which makes it sort of like a changeup in baseball
    -better inside fighting
    -better combinations which he hardly ever has to use also
    -better distance fighting
    -better conditioning
    -the shoulder roll
    -better feints
    -better timing
    -better accuracy

    How are you not worried?

    This is why I'm only worried about the looping right hand, because I can't realistically see Maidana getting to Floyd without Floyd seeing the punch coming unless it's looping and awkward.

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    • DondiNeverLeft
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      #32
      Originally posted by punchr
      Floyd Mayweather is vulnerable to rabbit punches in the clinch.

      Robert Guerrero rabbit punched Mayweather at will. Only problem is Guerrero hasn't had a knockout in four years. His last knockout was against Roberto David Arrieta in 2010.







      Mayweather is visibly roughed up by Guerrero's rabbit punches.


      Now look at what Marcos Maidana's rabbit punches can do (way more damage than Guerrero's).

      Skip to 16:03 to see Maidana's rabbit punches in action.

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      I think Maidana's rabbit punches will lead to Mayweather getting TKO'd. Good luck, Mayweather. Hope your legs are ready. Yikes!
      First Floyd is too smart for that and The ref will not allow that. Floyd is too big of a name and too many people are watching this fight . The ref messes up he may not work again.. He will make sure the cash cow is protected.

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      • Syf
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        #33
        Originally posted by Espy
        Okay well two can play this game buddy

        Floyd has

        -A strong jab which he rarely uses because he hardly ever needs to.
        -Faster handspeed
        -the pull counter
        -Better defensive positioning
        -Better footwork
        -The philly shell
        -A better 1-2 than Maidana as it lands at a much higher percentage
        -better reflexes
        -higher boxing IQ
        -The counter and lead right hand which can be thrown straight or as a deceptive hook that appears like a straight which makes it sort of like a changeup in baseball
        -better inside fighting
        -better combinations which he hardly ever has to use also
        -better distance fighting
        -better conditioning
        -the shoulder roll
        -better feints
        -better timing
        -better accuracy

        How are you not worried?

        This is why I'm only worried about the looping right hand, because I can't realistically see Maidana getting to Floyd without Floyd seeing the punch coming unless it's looping and awkward.
        We are all aware of what Floyd brings to the table.

        Despite all that maidana is just as likely to land a left hook as an overhand, since your criteria is that its awkward well his left hook is too.. and, if maidana gets floyd used to looping awkward shots, sprinkling in straights may meet with success as well.

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        • punchr
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          #34
          Originally posted by LoadedWraps
          These aren't rabbit punches they are hooks. Do you even know what a rabbit punch is?? red k worthy. And here I used to think punchr knew what he was talking about.
          I never said those are rabbit punches. It's just a post to show Maidana's power.

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            #35
            Originally posted by punchr
            Wait... so you don't think he's roughed up?



            Maidana's rabbit punches are better than Ortiz'.
            You are so desperate you want Maidana to foul Mayweather to victory.

            Mayweather is driving these mestizos crazy.

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            • LoadedWraps
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              #36
              Originally posted by Syf
              common perception aside

              A hook can be a rabbit punch. Provided that hook lands on the back of the head.

              The term originated from killing rabbits with one blow to a vulnerable area prior to skinning and eating them... so any strike to the back of the head or areas of the neck that meet the back of the head could be considered a rabbit punch.
              I know, but he makes it sound like Maidana throws them intentionally, usually the term is used when a fighter is doing it as a dirty tactic. Maidana has fought dirty before, but I don't consider it a rabbit punch if you throw a solid hook which hits the back of the opponents head because of their defensive decision.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Syf
                  Not speaking of rabbit punches specifically with ortiz, but the exchange prior to the ortiz headbutt intrigued me: mayweather felt the ropes getting closer so he ducked and faded to ortiz's left, but ortiz caught him with a right.. this prompted floyd to back up to defend off of the ropes.. and yes, he picked off ortiz's followup straights with a combination of his high guard and bending back over the ropes.. (rope a doped him) but he was feeling the pressure. Especially after the headbutt that ensued next.

                  now that headbutt could have been just that, an attempt to unsettle mayweather in preparation of a renewed effort to hurt him.. veteran tactics... as they say.. but thats where Ortiz self destructed.

                  Now Maidana...I want to see Floyd try to rope a dope maidana if in trouble because maidana is actually smart enough to pound the ribcage instead of headhunting as ortiz did. Rope a dope only really works if the fighter has the intestinal fortitude to withstand the body shots. I wann see Floyd take a mollywhomp to the 'cage and see if it dont take some wind out his sails.
                  Why because he landed a solid punch?

                  The whole idea of Ortiz "Giving Floyd trouble" is that he landed a solid clean shot on a single occasion in two seperate rounds.

                  He wasn't giving Mayweather any trouble at all. The amount of clean solid punches Ortiz landed you can count on one hand.

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                  • Espy
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Syf
                    We are all aware of what Floyd brings to the table.

                    Despite all that maidana is just as likely to land a left hook as an overhand, since your criteria is that its awkward well his left hook is too.. and, if maidana gets floyd used to looping awkward shots, sprinkling in straights may meet with success as well.
                    Touche (looping left and right hook), but seeing as you are aware of what Floyd brings to the table and aware of my statements you should realize that I said: I find it highly unlikely that Maidana lands one of the shots necessary to change the fight in the first place. I was merely pointing out that the awkwardness of Maidana's shots combined with his power could pose a problem if they were to land essentially meaning that if he landed a shot like Mosely did I for sure think it will hurt Mayweather more and I could see it happening due to his awkwardness.

                    I just think that it is highly unlikely that Maidana gets to Mayweather period. Which is consistent with how I feel about pretty much every fighter who has gone against Mayweather. Of course some have hit May flush but none to the degree to reach the desired affect of winning.

                    Thus going back to my original point, I don't think Maidana has a realistic chance to win this fight with any of his boxing tools he has exhibited

                    however I feel his puncher's chance is a bit intensified due to the awkward nature of his power punching and the possibility of a perfectly timed looping punch slipping May's line of sight.

                    In simpler words, it COULD happen but I wouldn't bet on it with your money.

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                    • Espy
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Why because he landed a solid punch?

                      The whole idea of Ortiz "Giving Floyd trouble" is that he landed a solid clean shot on a single occasion in two seperate rounds.

                      He wasn't giving Mayweather any trouble at all. The amount of clean solid punches Ortiz landed you can count on one hand.
                      Hate seems to inspire people to see things that aren't there.

                      I didn't even see all of the "trouble" that Cotto gave Mayweather.

                      Nearly every fighter loses rounds and gets hit throughout the course of their boxing career. Some very frequently. Mayweather gets tagged so infrequently that a tough round or two or one big hit translates to a very tough fight for him in the eyes of his detractors.

                      Mayweather is held to the weirdest standards. People criticize him and say he is a ducker or a runner or feather fisted or never truly tested etc.

                      Yet when it comes down to it people expect him to be truly perfect. No one else today is held to this regard and it's hilarious how people find things to nitpick Mayweather with but gloss over it in reference to the boxer that they support.

                      edit: this last paragraph stands true with lebron james as well, I realize that polarizing athletes who dominate their respective sports are held to ridiculous standards riddled with hypocrisy.
                      Last edited by Espy; 03-11-2014, 04:53 PM.

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