Will Canelo be a Champ at Middleweight?

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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #81
    Originally posted by ColdBlooded
    Quillin in particular is very stationary. And we saw against Rosado that he doesn't like pressure. Alvarez probably walks Quillin down and beats him up.
    Quillen isnt a very active fighter either.. I can see canelo getting off first and scoring, and then dodging quillens jabs doing his little head movement trick
    Last edited by Sugar Adam Ali; 03-10-2014, 12:58 AM.

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    • ColdBlooded
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      #82
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
      Quillen is a very active fighter either.. I can see canelo getting off first and scoring, and then dodging quillens jabs doing his little head movement trick
      I agree. Quillin's stamina is terrible. Worse than Alvarez's by far. And Quillin isn't any bigger than Alvarez. They rehydrate to the same weight.

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        #83
        Originally posted by ColdBlooded
        I agree. Quillin's stamina is terrible. Worse than Alvarez's by far. And Quillin isn't any bigger than Alvarez. They rehydrate to the same weight.
        Would like to see how canelo handles quillens power if he gets tagged flush

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          #84
          Originally posted by `STEELHEAD
          The guys is 5'7 (5'7 1/2 tops), that's the way he's been listed on all his showtime fights and he was shorter than Mayweather (5'8).

          Boxrec is extremely inaccurate when it comes to height, its not the first time they get it wrong.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
            Would like to see how canelo handles quillens power if he gets tagged flush
            If I recall, Alvarez was badly hurt by Jose Cotto. But since then, he's shown no signs of being hurt against bigger fighters.

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              #86
              Originally posted by ColdBlooded
              I agree. Quillin's stamina is terrible. Worse than Alvarez's by far. And Quillin isn't any bigger than Alvarez. They rehydrate to the same weight.
              woah player slow the roll, i dont think quillin stamina is that bad. i just dont think quillin is that good. i also think they may try to keep canelo at 154. unless he actually fights the winner of cotto/martinez which would be ******ic

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                #87
                Originally posted by ColdBlooded
                If I recall, Alvarez was badly hurt by Jose Cotto. But since then, he's shown no signs of being hurt against bigger fighters.
                What bigger fighters has he fought.. Trout isn't a power puncher, and angulo never really landed flush....
                I think Canelo's chin is still an unknown, it really hasn't been tested yet

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by sugarsmosley
                  woah player slow the roll, i dont think quillin stamina is that bad. i just dont think quillin is that good. i also think they may try to keep canelo at 154. unless he actually fights the winner of cotto/martinez which would be ******ic
                  Quillin seems to take a large number of rest periods in his fights. The Ndam... and Guerrero... and Rosado fights all demonstrate this. But you're right that Quillin is also just not that good. His defense is poor, he relies on one big punch, he doesn't move well, and he has no inside game. If they keep Alvarez at 154, there will be enormous pressure to fight Lara. Plus it's probably getting extremely difficult for Alvarez to make the weight. Maybe they'll try to put Alvarez in with the likes of Demetrius Andrade or Carlos Molina. I can definitely see them putting Alvarez in with Cotto, regardless of what happens to Cotto against Martinez. I do feel that a move up to middleweight is inevitable for Alvarez. It will inject some more life into an already top notch division.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by ColdBlooded
                    Quillin seems to take a large number of rest periods in his fights. The Ndam... and Guerrero... and Rosado fights all demonstrate this. But you're right that Quillin is also just not that good. His defense is poor, he relies on one big punch, he doesn't move well, and he has no inside game. If they keep Alvarez at 154, there will be enormous pressure to fight Lara. Plus it's probably getting extremely difficult for Alvarez to make the weight. Maybe they'll try to put Alvarez in with the likes of Demetrius Andrade or Carlos Molina. I can definitely see them putting Alvarez in with Cotto, regardless of what happens to Cotto against Martinez. I do feel that a move up to middleweight is inevitable for Alvarez. It will inject some more life into an already top notch division.
                    i was about to say this and mention that quillin isn't an elite MW. but really when u think of it, there are only the big two at 160. maravilla and GGG. everyone else is a step below... quillin,sturm,geale,murray,soliman... so really its not crazy to think canelo could be a "top middleweight" very soon

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by raf727
                      With his body type, how young he is, and how good he looked tonight I would go out on a limb and say yes, possibly even SMW as well down the line. He isn't very tall but the kid is wide, he will thicken up as he ages and move up and I think he can grab a belt or two.

                      Looked good to me tonight, I'm not crowing him the undisputed 154 lb champ but he can definitely give anyone there a run for their money not named Floyd. He looked real good, very good combinations, his stamina looked better, he was moving good with his legs and his head and upper body.

                      This could happen sooner than later though, I imagine he will be gunning for the Martinez/Cotto winner and that will be Martinez. I think Martinez, even at his age with his injuries, could box this kids ears off. You never know though Canelo might get him out of there or just have the answer for his movement as well.


                      I think he would beat martinez. His handspeed is comparable and his defense is miles ahead. Martinez is well past it now and gets hit a lot. The only thing martinez has thats big here is his stamina and that could affect canelo late.

                      I think Canelo beats:
                      martinez or cotto
                      sturm

                      Think he loses to GGG

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