Al Haymon is Another Bob Arum

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  • B.U.R.N.E.R
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    #21
    Do you know the difference between a promoter and a manager? Holy shyt.

    NVM I see hes finally banned. Clear trolling alt.

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    • The Hammer
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      #22
      Big difference!

      Al Haymon does his best for his fighters careers and gets them a lot of money.

      Bob Arum doesn't care about the well-being of his boxers, and takes most of the money for himself (that's why Pacquiao is broke).

      Every boxer should want someone like Al Haymon as his manager, and should avoid exploitative, ruthless snakes like Don King and Bob Arum.

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      • killakali
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        #23
        Originally posted by AlexaAriza
        Haymon doesnt have 1/10th the power arum does.

        look at wasted career of Russel is solely Haymon.
        Ask Andre Dirrell

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        • killakali
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          #24
          Originally posted by arraamis
          NO comparison between the two ... As already stated, one is a Manager and the other is a Promoter.

          In this case, the Manager is put in place to ensure the Promoter doesn't screw over the Boxer contractually. Haymon is on his clients side and he works for them, that's why his clients take home more of the accumulated revenue. Because he prevents the Promoter from hogging all the profits and keeping it within the promotional company.

          In the case of Arum, he is acting as both Promoter and Manager for his contracted fighters. And IMHO he is robbing them blind. I wished Pac had the intestinal fortitude to leave Arum, because he is the one being screwed over the most.

          Finally: Boxer's that have Haymon as management will tell you straight up that Haymon's got their back and that's why so many are starting to flock to him.

          Arum is just a lighter tanned Don King.
          Tim Bradley said hes thankful for the tons of money he has made from Top Rank. I think Pac gives a lot of his money away and doesn't invest it right

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            #25
            Originally posted by AlexaAriza
            He makes people sign to him in order to get the great fights to happen, Bob Arum makes people extend or sign to him to get the great fights, these are the scum bags of boxing. This is basically blackmail.
            One is a promoter, the other is a manager. Very different.

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            • arraamis
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              #26
              Originally posted by killakali
              Tim Bradley said hes thankful for the tons of money he has made from Top Rank. I think Pac gives a lot of his money away and doesn't invest it right
              Bradley just appointed his wife as his manager .... Which was a not-so-bright move BTW. And if he were to slam the deal he got with TR, then in essence he would also be slamming the incompetence of his wife. That's why you do not make your wife an over-night manager and put her in the room with Arum to negotiate contractual deals.

              So, I wouldn't put too much stock into what Bradley states outside of the boxing ring.

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              • HeroBando
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                #27
                Originally posted by arraamis
                Bradley just appointed his wife as his manager .... Which was a not-so-bright move BTW. And if he were to slam the deal he got with TR, then in essence he would also be slamming the incompetence of his wife. That's why you do not make your wife an over-night manager and put her in the room with Arum to negotiate contractual deals.

                So, I wouldn't put too much stock into what Bradley states outside of the boxing ring.
                Bradley will next make more money than Guerrero and Maidana got for fighting Floyd, combined

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  Bradley will next make more money than Guerrero and Maidana got for fighting Floyd, combined
                  thats what i am saying. He got almost as much for the first manny fight as guerrero and ortiz got combined for floyd. Clottey even got as much fighting manny as guerrero got for floyd. i don't get all this talk about these companies not paying great. if they didn't no one would sign or sign extensions. Even Alvarado held out and got like 1.3mil for Provodnikov. That is pretty good money IMO. It is more than paulie and zab got combined for their fight if you look at that perspective or more than double what lara and trout got combined for their fight

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                  • arraamis
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    Bradley will next make more money than Guerrero and Maidana got for fighting Floyd, combined
                    You're making definitive statements (Quite common on NSB) ....
                    What is your source???

                    Had to search ....
                    Robert Guerrero had a $3 million Guarantee
                    Ortiz had a $2 Million Guarantee

                    Neither are with Haymon BTW.

                    Maidana - Don't know .... (Is managed by Haymon)
                    Last edited by arraamis; 03-04-2014, 02:08 PM.

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                    • smoothsmg
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by AlexaAriza
                      Haymon doesnt have 1/10th the power arum does.

                      look at wasted career of Russel is solely Haymon.
                      a 25 year old boxer career is wasted?

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