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  • A_Jeffrey
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    #41
    Originally posted by Pain~Lucy
    no matter what you say, hater is a hater, and they're bitter now because loma finished strong, a dirty welterweight couldnt even knock him out. and nobody could lie to themselves that loma is the real deal, he will bounce big time!

    Loma will come back! deal with it loosers!
    Your dirty low blow hitting bum will be forgotten and will retire soon.

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    • Reginald Ledoux
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      #42
      Did Salido win? Yes

      Did he cheat in every way possible? Yes

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      • Derranged
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        #43
        Originally posted by MK4R32
        Did Salido win? Yes

        Did he cheat in every way possible? Yes
        I just cannot understand how people can deny this. What's even worse is the fact that they're comparing low-blows to holding.

        Clinching is legal in boxing. Excessive clinching isn't. However, everyone who watches boxing knows damn well that it takes a ridiculous amount of holding to get a point taken away, much less DQ'd. Hatton's and John Ruiz's style practically revolved around holding. I can't think of a time they had a point taken away because of it.

        Loma was holding because he was overwhelmed on the inside being that he was fighting a welterweight in there.

        Now lows blows on the other hand, are in no way legal under any circumstances, even when its by accident. Salido's low-blowing was undeniable and the ref only warned him once. Not to mention, he held and hit quite a bit himself. On top of this, Salido didn't even try to make the weight.

        Low blows are far more damaging and far less tolerated than excessive clinching. Well, that is they're less tolerated when you have a competent referee in the ring and fans who are watching the fight without their heads up their asses.

        The fact that people are defending Salido to the death is just pathetic.

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        • Derranged
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          #44
          I mean I could understand why people didn't want Lomachenko to win. They don't like him, his fans, they think he's a hype-job, overrated, etc. I get it.

          But don't sit there and try and say that Salido wasn't dirty as fuck, that the referee did a good job and that Loma's holding should have been penalized and/or is an excuse for the low blows because its complete bullshit. Just admit you wanted the guy to lose and you're happy that he did. I'd respect that much more than the lame excuses for Salido's tactics.

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          • DondiNeverLeft
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            #45
            Originally posted by pesticid
            Salido was still able to work and Lomo's holding was sporadic enough to allow Salido to land countless lowblows.

            On the other hand we saw Salido hold for dear life in the last two rounds Lomachenko coulnd't even pull himself away. Salido had him on lockdown with his arms and he looked like a seasoned sambo fighter, not a boxer.

            Meanwhile Lomo's holding with one arm and then Salido lands 3 low blows with the same arm in front of Cole. Lomo's holding wasn't even that bad. You think of bad holding and you think of Mayweather vs Hatton, Bhop vs Zaghe, Devon Alexander vs Marcos Maidana, Wlad vs anybody. The fact of the matter is that Lomo for all his experience, he doesn't even know how to hold or clinch. And you're all acting that all the clinching was initiated by him well in fact Salido was happy to be in there cause he could work his magic, below the belt, kidney shots and so and so forth.

            You armchair loosers talking about how lowblows aren't a big deal.

            Has any of you spaced out dummies fought against a seasoned professional fighter who weighed as much as Mayweather and fought leading with his head and off with the lowblows? No!

            Then you have Loma trying to actually defend lowblows cause the ref doesn't do anything about them, his own corner is telling him get away from the lowblows. Could they have been more vocal and demonstrative about the lowblows, sure! Could he have hit Salido back with a lowblow, sure! He didn't do it, ok but it still doesn't make Salido's low shots leagal. Even if you look at the body shots landed by Salido when they didn't stray below the belt they were on the elbows, a lot of them. Now how do you get your elbows down to your nuts to defend a lowblow? GTFO

            This was a great conjob by team salido, they won but it wasn't fair and square.

            They had Cole who likely bet on the underdog. He missed weight by 2.5 pounds, he came in at 19 pounds over what he weighed on fight night. He had Cole on his side. The fight was in Texas where they suck at drug testing and sometimes won't even do it. So Salido might've been on roids like when he whooped on Guerrero and later steroids were found and the decision was changed to a no-contest. Guerrero is a big dude and he got whooped by Salido from 1 to 12 much worse than Lomo. They won't discover anything in Salido's blood though, it's Texas.
            They both were trying to do what they needed to do to win. Simple. Salido won and deserved a close win. Lomo the great as he perceived himself while others pumped his ego, should have done more or used his skill to win...because he didn't have the experience. It's just like Broner, people laughed at his demise because the hype was huge.... Loom gets the same treatment Broner did.

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            • TheUglyness
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              #46
              Originally posted by Derranged
              I mean I could understand why people didn't want Lomachenko to win. They don't like him, his fans, they think he's a hype-job, overrated, etc. I get it.

              But don't sit there and try and say that Salido wasn't dirty as fuck, that the referee did a good job and that Loma's holding should have been penalized and/or is an excuse for the low blows because its complete bullshit. Just admit you wanted the guy to lose and you're happy that he did. I'd respect that much more than the lame excuses for Salido's tactics.
              Well I can't speak for everyone but for me personally, I wanted Salido to win because I've followed him for quite some time and love his style. I was happy to see him win. Do I think he won on a completely even field? No.

              I like Lomachenko. I didn't "want" him to lose. I "wanted" Salido to win. I especially liked how he responded during the post-fight interview. Didn't make any excuses, and that attitude will take him a long way. Some of his Loma's fans however, need to learn from him on taking a loss. Accept that he lost, and enough the whining.

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              • Derranged
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                #47
                Originally posted by TheUglyness
                Well I can't speak for everyone but for me personally, I wanted Salido to win because I've followed him for quite some time and love his style. I was happy to see him win. Do I think he won on a completely even field? No.

                I like Lomachenko. I didn't "want" him to lose. I "wanted" Salido to win. I especially liked how he responded during the post-fight interview. Didn't make any excuses, and that attitude will take him a long way. Some of his Loma's fans however, need to learn from him on taking a loss. Accept that he lost, and enough the whining.
                I accept that he lost and he shouldn't have been in the ring with someone that has had 40 pro fights anyway. Definitely unnecessary, and luckily for him he didn't get knocked out or beat up badly.

                What I DON'T accept were Salido's tactics and the ref's performance.

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                • pesticid
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by TheUglyness
                  Well I can't speak for everyone but for me personally, I wanted Salido to win because I've followed him for quite some time and love his style. I was happy to see him win. Do I think he won on a completely even field? No.

                  I like Lomachenko. I didn't "want" him to lose. I "wanted" Salido to win. I especially liked how he responded during the post-fight interview. Didn't make any excuses, and that attitude will take him a long way. Some of his Loma's fans however, need to learn from him on taking a loss. Accept that he lost, and enough the whining.
                  So just because Loma turns the other cheak, so should I? Sorry bro, I ain't a Christian.

                  What's wrong is wrong, what's dirty is dirty and what's illegal and dirty is illegal and dirty and that's what Salido was doing before and during the fight. So yeah Loma lost, Salido won more rounds but Salido did not win fair and square. He won by cheating before and during the fight. That's all I am saying and I won't be surprised if he was roided the same way he was for the Guerrero fight.

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                  • Konstantin
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                    #49
                    Well now Loma doesnt have to worry about being defined by an 0 any more. And the fact that he lost it in the very beginning of his career makes it an 'acceptable' loss.

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                    • B.U.R.N.E.R
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                      #50
                      He lost. Quit bytching. The veteran did what veterans do. It was too soon of a step up.

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