Arthur Abraham is so underrated

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  • Xpert
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    #11
    Originally posted by Spray_resistant
    Taylor was done and off of a ko loss, what had he done since then?

    Also no, both Stieglitz wins and Miranda 1 are disputed so they are not clear wins and those are his best in 45 fights......dreadful resume and a limited fighter who is a choir to watch.
    Taylor had just given Froch huge problems, knocking him down for the first time in his career. He also gave Arthur some problems. After the Abraham fight, Taylor was never the same, but before that, Taylor had beat Hopkins, Lacy and given Froch major trouble. After the Abraham fight, Taylor was never the same again, but Arthur got him when he was still dangerous.

    Tell me, where are Stieglitz and Miranda disputed as wins?

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    • Spray_resistant
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      #12
      Originally posted by Xpert
      Taylor had just given Froch huge problems, knocking him down for the first time in his career. He also gave Arthur some problems. After the Abraham fight, Taylor was never the same, but before that, Taylor had beat Hopkins, Lacy and given Froch major trouble. After the Abraham fight, Taylor was never the same again, but Arthur got him when he was still dangerous.

      Tell me, where are Stieglitz and Miranda disputed as wins?
      Please stop

      Fans dispute them making them neither clear cut or impressive then later AA finished Pavlik's left overs later ducking Pavlik.

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      • sako5
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        #13
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant
        Please stop

        Fans dispute them making them neither clear cut or impressive then later AA finished Pavlik's left overs later ducking Pavlik.
        When did he duck Pavlik ? Anyway, the Stieglitz avatar is betraying your AA hate. AND THE NEWWWWWW

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        • Hougigo
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          #14
          I think he's a good MW....not so much SMW.
          Yea I expected Stieglitz to win, but Abraham didn't look spectacular in his fight before against some crappy opposition

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          • Xpert
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            #15
            Originally posted by Hougigo
            I think he's a good MW....not so much SMW.
            Yea I expected Stieglitz to win, but Abraham didn't look spectacular in his fight before against some crappy opposition
            What would it take for you to consider him a good SMW? He's already KO'ed a guy that gave Froch major problems and he's beaten Stieglitz, a champ, twice.

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            • BattlingNelson
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              #16
              Abraham made a resurrection thats for sure. He had a gameplan for stieglitz, who came out as expected. It was remarkable since he has looked shot for a couple of years.

              Major props to him.

              The stage is set for a fourth fight.

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              • Hougigo
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                #17
                Originally posted by Xpert
                What would it take for you to consider him a good SMW? He's already KO'ed a guy that gave Froch major problems and he's beaten Stieglitz, a champ, twice.
                I think he's better at MW than he is at SMW. I don't feel his power fully transferred to SMW from MW.
                I guess what I said wasn't fair. He's top 10 at SMW, but the top 5 guys beat him without a doubt. He can beat most SMW's.....but I still feel he'd be better off at MW.

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                • Xpert
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Hougigo
                  I think he's better at MW than he is at SMW. I don't feel his power fully transferred to SMW from MW.
                  I guess what I said wasn't fair. He's top 10 at SMW, but the top 5 guys beat him without a doubt. He can beat most SMW's.....but I still feel he'd be better off at MW.
                  He's better at MW, 100%, but my point was that many underrate him, even though he has done multiple respectable things in SMW.

                  He's one of the best SMW in the world.

                  But yes, Froch/Ward/Kessler beats him easily.

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                  • Hougigo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Xpert
                    He's better at MW, 100%, but my point was that many underrate him, even though he has done multiple respectable things in SMW.

                    He's one of the best SMW in the world.

                    But yes, Froch/Ward/Kessler beats him easily.
                    I underrate him because I think he's past it.
                    I assume every fight he'll shell up for a few rounds, starting slowly, then open up down the stretch... and as he gets older this wouldn't help him win any fights.

                    That's my assumption.

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                      #20
                      A fine middleweight in my opinion.. not really a top super middleweight though. I remember being very impressed with him before the super six.

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