Comments Thread For: Photos: Salido, Lomachenko Open San Antonio Workouts

[Mikhnienko]

I honestly have no idea how the Salido fight will go and Lomachenko losing is a real possibility but when people criticize something like his punching power when there is significant evidence to the contrary is mystifies me.

Argh!

I don't think he has poor power, just like I don't think he has short arms. I don't think he has good, world class power. There is a very big difference. I look at him as a sharp accumulation type puncher at the moment. A little like Gary Russell.

His athleticism is why I don't think it's going to be much of a disadvantage. It's just not an advantage for him.

Look, I'm playing devils advocate to people, a lot of people, that are saying huge, massive things about this guy. What I'm saying is that for the potential people are already throwing onto him, you have to look at everything. He has stuff in his favour, but he does have things that aren't even close to what people are making him out to be already. People are saying he has eve thing, already. That's absurd. Complete bull****. We don't know yet at all. No one does. Not his trainer, not his dad, and not us.

We cannot tell, ever, until he's been in the ring against top world class pro opposition. When small things become huge and the difference in being good and great. We can look at what the possibilities are that'll get taken advantage of when he fights great fighters, and for a guy that's jumping up to fight solid old, veteran champions already, we have to look at what he has right now.

Fair enough although i do think some of the things you are emphasizing are among the least significant factors. Endurance, chin, ability to cope with pressure from a Salido caliber fighter and rough tactics are far more relevant than trying to claim being a 5'7 FW with a 23" reach will be his undoing.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Yeah, absolutely, but how long does it take us to learn to look past debuts to what's really there. I always take early debuts etc with a big grain of salt now, because way, way too often guys look great and they just don't make it. The signs were there all along, but people just ignore them. They don't show up much, because they're fighting to their strengths against cans, not having weaknesses shown up by better opposition...

I've been guilty of this often enough myself, both in boxing and in life in general. But I'd rather lean towards optimism rather than pessimism. lol

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

I honestly have no idea how the Salido fight will go and Lomachenko losing is a real possibility but when people criticize something like his punching power when there is significant evidence to the contrary is mystifies me.

The kid obviously have power, at the same time we don't know what is going to happen in the pro's at the higher levels.

The fact he's fighting Salido in his second fight is amazing. I'm really interested in seeing this fight.

[bojangles1987]

I'm really looking forward to this fight, bro. I don't know what to think, either. I believe Lomo is a major prospect, but that Salido is a real tall order for a newbie pro...any newbie pro. I'm rooting for Vasyl to have a great career; then again, I have a soft-spot for ""Siri." I'm on the fence in every way in this one.

Salido's been a real tall order for just about any pro, new or old or in between.

I get that he's past prime, but he still handled a decent enough pro without any trouble in his last fight. What I saw of Lomachenko in his first fight were a lot of things that could get him beat in this fight.

It's mind-boggling that this is the champion Lomachenko is fighting, and not an easier one. If he wins this, he's the best featherweight in the world after his second fight. Crazy.

[BennyST]

I've been guilty of this often enough myself, both in boxing and in life in general. But I'd rather lean towards optimism rather than pessimism. lol

Hey, I'm optimistic, just in a realist fashion.

[BennyST]

Salido's been a real tall order for just about any pro, new or old or in between.

I get that he's past prime, but he still handled a decent enough pro without any trouble in his last fight. What I saw of Lomachenko in his first fight were a lot of things that could get him beat in this fight.

It's mind-boggling that this is the champion Lomachenko is fighting, and not an easier one. If he wins this, he's the best featherweight in the world after his second fight. Crazy.

It is crazy. It's just an unnecessary risk. I'm really surprised Bob allowed it to be honest. For such a talent to have a real significant chance of a long, hard, brutal 12 round fight after his debut....

[bojangles1987]

It is crazy. It's just an unnecessary risk. I'm really surprised Bob allowed it to be honest. For such a talent to have a real significant chance of a long, hard, brutal 12 round fight after his debut....

They must have that kind of faith in him. Or they know something we don't. Or they are again underestimating Salido, like they did with Juanma Lopez.

I'm psyched to see what happens. I could not be more intrigued.

[BennyST]

I honestly have no idea how the Salido fight will go and Lomachenko losing is a real possibility but when people criticize something like his punching power when there is significant evidence to the contrary is mystifies me.



Fair enough although i do think some of the things you are emphasizing are among the least significant factors. Endurance, chin, ability to cope with pressure from a Salido caliber fighter and rough tactics are far more relevant than trying to claim being a 5'7 FW with a 23" reach will be his undoing.

Yeah, and we don't know about any of that stuff yet, so there's no point in even going there. We have no idea what his chin is like. We have no idea if he can keep up a high pace for 12 rounds, and we have no idea if he can handle pressure from a champion.

I'm trying to look at things that might get him beaten. I'm not saying he's not going to be great because of these things. I'm saying that he doesn't have advantages in some areas and they could well stop him from reaching the heights people have already thrown him to.

As to his power, once again, I have seen him knock guys down. Fighters with his speed tend to do that. I haven't seen him knock guys out or show what might translate to top pro power. It's not a disadvantage, but I don't see it as an advantage for him like many others do. That's what I think based on what I've seen. If you compared him to Pac, he would have the speed, minus the power.

[BennyST]

They must have that kind of faith in him. Or they know something we don't. Or they are again underestimating Salido, like they did with Juanma Lopez.

I'm psyched to see what happens. I could not be more intrigued.

Yeah, me too. Really can't wait. It's so rare to see a top prospect tested so early properly. Salido is a proper test.

[revs1227]

am i the only one that realizes saldio has only lost 3 times in the last 13 years ? 1,mikey garcia , gamboa, juan manuel marquez ...they would all smoke lomo