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  • #21
    Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
    One fight into his very promising professional career, promoter Bob Arum already considers Vasyl Lomachenko one of the world’s best boxers.

    “I think Lomachenko is among the top five best fighters in the world now,” Arum said. “I think he is fantastic. I know his preparation is fantastic. I think Lomachenko will be a major, major star. As good as Gennady Golovkin is, which he is, as good Provodnikov is, which he is, Lomachenko will out-shine them all. He is absolutely phenomenal.”
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    If Lomachenko can beat Salido in only his second pro fight and look good doing it, then he may well be something special. But to call him top 5 is a great leap forward.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by hitking View Post
      Worked fine for Rigo against Donaire. Worked fine for Holyfield against Qawi. Worked fine for Leon Spinks against Ali. And IMO Donaire, Qawi, and Ali are better than Salido. He'll be fine.
      U do realize all of those fighters were pros for multiple fights before their big fights. And Leon Spinks? He did one thing right in in one fight his whole career. He's really not a good example of what ur saying.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by hitking View Post
        If you can fight you can fight.
        I don't fully agree. The punch resistance factor will take a toll in the 2nd half of the fight. Fighting is one thing, but taking 12 rounds of punishment (if it happens) is something your body adapts to, you don't just naturally become punch resistant. It's like pinching the back of your upper arm, it fkn hurts like a ***** because that is untested skin, unlike the bottom of your foot or your palm. Your palm is naturally more tough than the skin on the back of your arm because you use your hands daily, you don't use the back of your arm for anything strenuous. Lomachenko is untested back of the arm skin right now. We'll see how he reacts after being pinched for 20+ minutes going into the later half of the fight.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Trudoe View Post
          I don't fully agree. The punch resistance factor will take a toll in the 2nd half of the fight. Fighting is one thing, but taking 12 rounds of punishment (if it happens) is something your body adapts to, you don't just naturally become punch resistant. It's like pinching the back of your upper arm, it fkn hurts like a ***** because that is untested skin, unlike the bottom of your foot or your palm. Your palm is naturally more tough than the skin on the back of your arm because you use your hands daily, you don't use the back of your arm for anything strenuous. Lomachenko is untested back of the arm skin right now. We'll see how he reacts after being pinched for 20+ minutes going into the later half of the fight.
          Deontay Wilder has about 30 fights under his belt. And he's fought what, 3-4rds tops in a his longest fight? U don't see how that prepares him for a potential 12rd'r down the road.

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          • #25
            So now we are just giving away free PFP ratings without a fighter having to earn it??? IF he becomes a PFP, it will be after he beats top names and earns it the old fashioned way!

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            • #26
              Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
              U do realize all of those fighters were pros for multiple fights before their big fights. And Leon Spinks? He did one thing right in in one fight his whole career. He's really not a good example of what ur saying.
              My point is all those guys took massive leaps in their level of competition without progressing through the ranks. And they did so successfully. The notion that you have to start with 4rd'rs, then move to 6rd'rs, then move to 8rd'rs, then move to 10rd'rs, then fight a top 20 guy, then fight a fringe guy, then fight a couple contenders before taking your shot at the best in the division is ridiculous. That's my point.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by koolbreez12 View Post
                I think he meant cirque de soleil (sp)?
                No...I think it's the one they hold in a Tijuana bullring - Circus Ole'

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by hitking View Post
                  My point is all those guys took massive leaps in their level of competition without progressing through the ranks. And they did so successfully. The notion that you have to start with 4rd'rs, then move to 6rd'rs, then move to 8rd'rs, then move to 10rd'rs, then fight a top 20 guy, then fight a fringe guy, then fight a couple contenders before taking your shot at the best in the division is ridiculous. That's my point.
                  Bypassing the typical progression process is the exception not the rule. Its different for every fighter.

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                  • #29
                    If Lomachenko doesn't KO salido early, he's in for a crude awakening. Salido has a decade of experience at the championship level. Sure Lomachenko's am record is just out of this world but being a pro at the championship level is different. You not only need skill but you need to be experienced, you need to know what is like to dig deep in the 9th or 10th round to come out strong in the championship rounds. No amateur is prepared for that in their second pro fight.

                    Salido is no pushover and he's a seasoned vet, if he takes Loma to the deep waters he'll drown him.

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                    • #30
                      i agree with arum...lomachenko and ggg are both top 5 material......one day ggg will be #1, lomachenko will be #2, wlad #3, kovalev #4, and provodnikov #5

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