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  • The Big Dunn
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    #41
    Originally posted by jrrod02
    This is very true. In fact Golden Boy had a hard time developing fighters and if I'm not mistaking it wasn't until Abner Mares became a World Champion that they had their first Champ whom they developed from day one.

    However you can still be successful if you do what Golden Boy did the past few years and simply buy already developed guys to come fight under your banner.

    The problem I feel Mayweather is going to have is in getting the young Hispanic guys to come fight under his banner rather than say Golden Boy.
    I for example would have a hard time seeing a top draw like Canelo signing with TMT instead of GB.
    I agree. GBP is great at making stars but not at developing a fighter IMO. TR is still the best at that. You see how they ****ed up putting Mares in with Jhonny Gonzales.

    I think if he stays as a promoter he should concentrate on the urban market. I agree he will have a hard time attracting certain fighters-but I think he is te right person, along with Haymon, to try and resurrect the african american markets for fighters.

    IMO ideally floyd should become a GBP partner and its head trainer when he retires.

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    • Kuyukut
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      #42
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      I agree. GBP is great at making stars but not at developing a fighter IMO. TR is still the best at that. You see how they ****ed up putting Mares in with Jhonny Gonzales.

      I think if he stays as a promoter he should concentrate on the urban market. I agree he will have a hard time attracting certain fighters-but I think he is te right person, along with Haymon, to try and resurrect the african american markets for fighters.

      IMO ideally floyd should become a GBP partner and its head trainer when he retires.
      you want floyd to train future boxers on how to duck other fighters? ytksab... get the fuck outta here...

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      • Detroit29
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        #43
        HBO cut ties with GB not the other way around. When floyd signed with showtime, thats what triggered the severence. May never had a contract with HBO. Everything was done on a fight by fight basis. Floyd-Pac wont happen because Floyd has made his stance clear. Hes not working with arum. Plus if the fight did go down, thats money split between three promotional companies. Floyd is not having that.

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        • toshmurph
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          #44
          Ehh, Oscar I'm pretty Sure it's been that **** Richard Schaefer that been the source of all the "bad" words between Top Rank and GBP!

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          • johnnyrambo
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            #45
            Thanks problem is, there's other networks with brighter minds that are at odds now primarily because of you TWO. You can soften all u want but you've built up the walls now! Gud look tearing em down.

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            • JustinFloyd
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              #46
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/p...den-boy-battle

              ESPN are floydiots according to this poster!
              so everything Fat Dan said now is fact? just let me know and Im sure you will change your mind when I give you article from Fat Dan discussing different topic. Its fat Dan's observation and it does not mean its a fact. So GBP is innocent on this topic? AS I said, Pac is in big fault here but blaming all on him is the fantasy on floydiots! lol

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #47
                Originally posted by JustinFloyd
                so everything Fat Dan said now is fact? just let me know and Im sure you will change your mind when I give you article from Fat Dan discussing different topic. Its fat Dan's observation and it does not mean its a fact. So GBP is innocent on this topic? AS I said, Pac is in big fault here but blaming all on him is the fantasy on floydiots! lol
                I simply posted an article that answered the TS question and your post. If the only way you can deal with being upset about someone blaming manny for the cold war is to react like this, so be it.

                Why does it bother you so much?

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #48
                  So GBP is going to be running a good cop/bad cops publicity strategy on this rivalry. Probably a good move, I don't see it amounting to much but they will get some good spin.

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                  • Porter's Dad
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                    #49
                    Oscar has been pretty much jettisoned from his own company. Haymon, Schaeffer and Mayweather run it now.

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                    • JustinFloyd
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      I simply posted an article that answered the TS question and your post. If the only way you can deal with being upset about someone blaming manny for the cold war is to react like this, so be it.

                      Why does it bother you so much?
                      nah, it looks like its you always on Pac ass! lol!

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