Who ranks higher in your ATG list? Joe Frazier or Wladimir Klitschko?

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

WK by far when it comes to skills and achievments....

[I Love Jesus!]

Wlad runs through Ali, Frazier and Tyson's resumes without breaking a sweat

I'll take this gem

[King_]

Wlad is a B plus fighter in a E minus era and frazier was an A plus fighter in an A plus era

One could probably make the argument Fraziers era was slightly worse then Wlads due to size difference alone.


As crazy as it sounds. Wlad would of been a man among boys

[Szef]

Szef99 and probably some writers/"experts"



Either way... Our opinions are our opinions but Wlads current title reign, dominance during his era, historical numbers and to a slightly lesser degree- résumé, speak for itself.

Sorry but no. He's higher on that list than Frazier though

[King_]

Sorry but no. He's higher on that list than Frazier though

Barring any injuries or losses, Wlad could be GOAT, IMO. I guess that's just me then

[jasjas]

One could probably make the argument Fraziers era was slightly worse then Wlads due to size difference alone.


As crazy as it sounds. Wlad would of been a man among boys

Muhammad Ali was a boy? George Foreman was a boy?

[LacedUp]

So it doesn't count

My bad, I forgot that Leon Spinks didn't knock Ali out he outpointed him something that has never happaned to Wlad, pre or post Steward.

Still doesn't look good

I don't really rate Tyson that much but he was really hyped.

It counts, but it's just a bit far-fetched to go from "most great heavyweights were stopped by average fighters at some point" to go back to 2 fighters that fought 100 years ago, but each to his own.

So it's better to get knocked out by jouneymen than to lose a decision to an olympic gold medalist? Plus he won an immediate rematch - something Wlad could learn from. Add to that, he shouldn't even be fighting at that point and came in ridiculously bad shape.

Tyson was great - he was a victim of his own success though.

[LacedUp]

One could probably make the argument Fraziers era was slightly worse then Wlads due to size difference alone.


As crazy as it sounds. Wlad would of been a man among boys

Oh god,

Please stop yourself.

[jasjas]

How can you compare Purrity and Sanders to any other ATGs opponent? I can just say Wlad runs through Ali, Frazier and Tyson's resumes without breaking a sweat

I'll take this gem

[$0uthpaw]

Klitschko has been dominant but he lacks a meaningful win. Frazier has a W over the Greatest. Long title reigns don't mean anything without real opponents.