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  • #41
    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
    Rigondeaux claims he has over 400 amateur fights, I will take his word for it. There's nothing to gain from lying about that.
    Also, didn't he go pro at a later age? There's plenty of time for him to gather all those fights.

    The guys who went pro at 18 or 19 with 300+ fights is suspect.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Black Barty View Post
      FWIW Savon lost to Chagaev in the final of the 1997 AIBA World Championships. (Chagaev was later disqualified because he had two pro fights before the tournament.) Savon enthusiasts dispute the decision, but Savon didn't outclass Chagaev in that fight by any measure. And Chagaev didn't really become a pro HW great...
      Losing to Chageav is not a barometer of how good Savon was as an amateur and how good he may have been as a pro, this man won 3 Olympic gold medals and 6 World Championships. The consistency of his success is ridiculous. I'm not saying he would have transitioned to the pro ranks and become an ATG but he had the potential.

      It's not just the record either, did you ever see him fight? He was tall and rangy, could hit hard enough and had terrific movement. I still think Stevenson was the best Cuban heavy ever and one of the best amateurs ever but Savon was close.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
        He won Gold at the World Amateur Boxing Championships in 2003. He won silver the following year in the Olympics. The posted list doesn't seem to distiguish the two.

        Alongside the Olympic boxing programme, World Amateur Boxing Championships is the highest level of competition for the sport.

        In that 2003 World Boxing Championship, GGG beat Matvey Korobov, Andy Lee, Lucian Bute, Yordanis Despaigne and Oleg Mashkin.
        (Wins-Losses-Draws) (Olympic Medals) (World Championship Medals)

        World Championship Medals are distinguished via italics.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by MisterHardtop View Post
          Losing to Chageav is not a barometer of how good Savon was as an amateur and how good he may have been as a pro, this man won 3 Olympic gold medals and 6 World Championships. The consistency of his success is ridiculous. I'm not saying he would have transitioned to the pro ranks and become an ATG but he had the potential.

          It's not just the record either, did you ever see him fight? He was tall and rangy, could hit hard enough and had terrific movement. I still think Stevenson was the best Cuban heavy ever and one of the best amateurs ever but Savon was close.
          I know it's not an absolute measure of how he good he could have been as a pro. I mentioned it because it's an interesting bit of info not many people seem to know. I myself only remember it because the fight was in my hometown.

          And the best amateur ever was neither Savon nor Stevenson. It was Papp Laci.

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          • #45
            Interesting info to say the least.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by mathed View Post
              lol, was that really his record? I think they may have transposed some numbers, I'm sure it's 77-0.
              Nope it was 0-77, but to his defense he claims adamantly that one of the 77 losses could have went either way. So according to Brian he could just as easily be 1-76.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
                He won Gold at the World Amateur Boxing Championships in 2003. He won silver the following year in the Olympics. The posted list doesn't seem to distiguish the two.

                Alongside the Olympic boxing programme, World Amateur Boxing Championships is the highest level of competition for the sport.

                In that 2003 World Boxing Championship, GGG beat Matvey Korobov, Andy Lee, Lucian Bute, Yordanis Despaigne and Oleg Mashkin.
                we're talking about in the Olympics (thats what counts) & i will distinguish the 2 because winning gold in the Olympics is a lot different then winning gold In A WABC boxing tournament. he has silver in the olympics and nothing more.........his record has also been proven to be pretty inflated.

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                • #48
                  most unbelievable thing ab this thread is rigos 12 loses .....as i cant see him losiing ..ever

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Black Barty View Post
                    I know it's not an absolute measure of how he good he could have been as a pro. I mentioned it because it's an interesting bit of info not many people seem to know. I myself only remember it because the fight was in my hometown.

                    And the best amateur ever was neither Savon nor Stevenson. It was Papp Laci.
                    Opinions ..... but I can't argue with Lazlo's Olympic record, having said that, he was far too before my time and I don't think I've ever even seen footage of him so ranking him as the best ever would be presumptuous on my part.

                    I would how ever, like to clarify that I believe Teofilo was the best Cuban heavyweight ever, I don't claim him to be the greatest amateur fighter, he is definitely up there though.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by BennyST View Post
                      Amateur scoring has become a running joke. It's embarrassing. Every single aspect of boxing in that fight, Floyd clearly won. Every aspect. Particularly the one that matters the most, he hit the guy a lot more than the guy hit him. Still lost.

                      Happens all the time now though. Judges have no clue, and even if they did, the scoring system is utterly atrocious.
                      uh no floyd won the second round. He ate so many right hands in the third he was still full at thanksgiving. You're biased you are watching a fight with Floyd vs some other guy instead of a 2 person contest

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