Comments Thread For: BoxingScene.com's Latest Pound-for-Pound Update

[Weltschmerz]

Wlad has no ability to fight inside whatsoever, and the idea of doing so clearly scares him. As evident by his need to grab hold of his opponent the moment they are within reach. He shouldn't even be allowed to fight the way he has too many times.

Jab, clinch. Jab, clinch. Jab, right, clinch. Clinch. Clinch. Jab, clinch. Real skillful.

Lennox Lewis clinched all the time too. You don't consider him skillful? Wlad can fight on the inside, btw, but it's just not his main weapon, naturally as he's a tall fighter and utilizes his reach and stellar jab especially. Maybe you just didn't watch so many Klitschko fights...

[Weltschmerz]

Povetkin is a bum who's lost to cruiserweight Huck.

No, he won justifiably. And calling an Olympic Gold winner 'bum' means our talk ends right there.

[JustinFloyd]

Constitutes for a higher p4p ranking over pure dominance, ring savvy, and true respect by the fighters in your division?
Ask all the middleweights, even GGG knows Martinez is still king.
As well as of the heavyweights, they know the king of the mt.are still the Bros.
One was kayo'd, the other clearly outclassed. What does that say about those rankings & who runs them?
I'm done. I'm lost for words.....

But on your earlier post, you only point out WIN/LOST RECORDS regardless of how rubbish the outcome of the fight. As I said lots of factors and the bold one you mentioned above is one of the factors.

[hugh grant]

How is it that Manny got KTFO, lost two/out of the last three, and he's ahead of Sergio Martinez?
Same with JMM. didn't he just lose to TB???
?
When was the last time Martinez lost???
As a middleweight he has yet to lose.
Sorry boyz, not feeling it.
& you can't leave out the Bros.Klitch. They haven't lost in a minute.
I guess it's all about the flavor of the moment instead of someone's overall body of work.

Well considering Pac lost to 2 top 5 p4p guys means he is above Sergio who struggled with 3 brit boys in his last 3 fights who Rios is even ranked higher than.
If Sergio is as good as Pac he should be outclassing people like Pac did against Rios and Bradley. People have the audacity to question why Pac is fighting bums like Rios, even though he just came off of a KO loss to JMM? But Pac showed that if you are elite that is how you should deal with bums likes Rios (who isn't really a bum) Pac made him look like a bum, but doesn't mean he was. Something Sergio hasn't done although Sergio is winning, but we know its more than about winning.
So take your blinkers off for a second its clouding your judgement.

[Papaleo]

Rigondeaux > Ward

[DoktorSleepless]

I think all p4p lists should start being numbered like this:

1i) Mayweather
2i) Ward
3i) Pacquiao

Because they're imaginary.

[Syf]

Dont know why the same tired people end up on the list year in year out. New blood is needed. If this was a merit list id have no issue. But its not its basically p4p h2h fantasy. If everyone was the same size who would be best. Based on recent form.

provodnikov, maidana, stevenson, ggg. Should at least get honorable mentions.


As for p4p h2h, if klitschko loses his size advantage he's not that resourceful. Martinez lost his last bout to murray and his body is falling apart. You telling me if they were same size and proportion, that Adonis wouldnt make him blow his knee out again? Or that an aged plodding no defense marquez could beat the stronger younger provodnikov? And Pac, im a fan but its ridiculous how this guy stayed on p4p lists right after he was put to sleep and now after outpointing a non p4p rios.

if we talking p4p h2h, the old guard needs to adjust. I dont even look at p4p lists anymore.

[H.B.Viper]

So if that were the case, why isn't Mares

Well considering Pac lost to 2 top 5 p4p guys means he is above Sergio who struggled with 3 brit boys in his last 3 fights who Rios is even ranked higher than.
If Sergio is as good as Pac he should be outclassing people like Pac did against Rios and Bradley. People have the audacity to question why Pac is fighting bums like Rios, even though he just came off of a KO loss to JMM? But Pac showed that if you are elite that is how you should deal with bums likes Rios (who isn't really a bum) Pac made him look like a bum, but doesn't mean he was. Something Sergio hasn't done although Sergio is winning, but we know its more than about winning.
So take your blinkers off for a second its clouding your judgement.

Still a p4p fighter. As well as Broner!
It's all bogus. Mares fought nothing but top, top contenders until Gonzales stopped him
These ppl have their favorites, as do you!
Just like I mentioned with the grammy's. Herbie Han****, Carlos Santana, or even Jay-Z can produce pure trash, but to the academy it's magic. Martin Scorsese can do another Goodfelas, but he will lose an oscar everytime to Spielberg with trash like A.I.
Merrill Strep, & Julia Roberts will beat Angela Bassett everytime. Nothing more, nothing less.
No blinders, blinkers, just common sense!

[lazaron72]

I totally agree . Floyd , ward , rigondeaux on top of the list .
Hit and not get hit : this is what boxing is all about .

[kozone]

Rigo knocking off the p4p 5 Donaire > any Mikey win

Plus he was 2012 fighter of the year