Breakdown how Ward wouldl beat Stevenson at 175

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  • richardt
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    #31
    Originally posted by AVDB
    I think Floyd, Ward, Stevenson and GGG (although, unproven thus far) are all great fighters. I also think a great smaller man loses to a great bigger man 99.99% of the time so, Stevenson>Ward>GGG>Floyd
    Stevenson is not bigger than Ward. Stevenson spent most of his career at 168, the same division as Ward and moved up to 175 when he couldn't get a Froch fight and saw the Dawson fight as an opportunity and has said he can make 168 no problem for the right fight. They are the same size. GGG and Floyd are smaller.
    Last edited by richardt; 02-17-2014, 08:47 PM.

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    • daggum
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      #32
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      What do you base this on?
      his boxing stance, angles, and my vast knowledge of boxing. ward has never fought a left hand dominant southpaw. coincidence? ward turned down fights against 2 southpaws with good lefts. coincidence? ward knows whats dangerous to him. i know what's dangerous to him. now everyone knows. sorry andre! lets hug it out?

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      • IronDanHamza
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        #33
        Originally posted by daggum
        his boxing stance, angles, and my vast knowledge of boxing. ward has never fought a left hand dominant southpaw. coincidence? ward turned down fights against 2 southpaws with good lefts. coincidence? ward knows whats dangerous to him. i know what's dangerous to him. now everyone knows. sorry andre! lets hug it out?
        So nothing then.

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        • daggum
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          #34
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          So nothing then.
          well i already explained that he jumps forward behind his left shoulder. landing a straight right doesn't work because his head is behind his shoulder. landing a jab or left hook doens't usually work because he closes the distance so fast. a guy with a good straight left would have the time and distance to hit ward when he jumps forward. if you watch the dawson fight you can constantly see dawson trying to counter ward's rushes with right hook counters......futile effort. dawson is a right hand dominant southpaw so it was an easy fight for ward.

          why did floyd keep getting hit by judah when they were both just standing in the middle of the ring? why is floyd so good at rolling and dodging punches when orthodox fighters get him on the ropes? it's all the same concept that ward uses cept he uses it to smother opponents and get close instead of countering like floyd.

          if ward fought a left hand dominant southpaw he would get hit a lot more unless he came up with some other type of style. would he still be able to win? maybe but fighters don't like getting hit. getting hit increases your chances of losing. it's all a numbers game. you win 100 percent of the fights you don't take.

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            #35
            Originally posted by AVDB
            I think Floyd, Ward, Stevenson and GGG (although, unproven thus far) are all great fighters. I also think a great smaller man loses to a great bigger man 99.99% of the time so, Stevenson>Ward>GGG>Floyd
            When it comes to size there's really not a big difference between Ward and Stevenson. Ward used to fight at LHW when he was an amateur. Ward is a super middleweight who could easily right now fight at LHW so once he moves up expect him to be just as strong as the rest of the divison. It's not like Floyd who really has no business fighting a full-fledged middleweight.

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            • IronDanHamza
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              #36
              Originally posted by daggum
              well i already explained that he jumps forward behind his left shoulder. landing a straight right doesn't work because his head is behind his shoulder. landing a jab or left hook doens't usually work because he closes the distance so fast. a guy with a good straight left would have the time and distance to hit ward when he jumps forward. if you watch the dawson fight you can constantly see dawson trying to counter ward's rushes with right hook counters......futile effort. dawson is a right hand dominant southpaw so it was an easy fight for ward.

              why did floyd keep getting hit by judah when they were both just standing in the middle of the ring? why is floyd so good at rolling and dodging punches when orthodox fighters get him on the ropes? it's all the same concept that ward uses cept he uses it to smother opponents and get close instead of countering like floyd.

              if ward fought a left hand dominant southpaw he would get hit a lot more unless he came up with some other type of style. would he still be able to win? maybe but fighters don't like getting hit. getting hit increases your chances of losing. it's all a numbers game. you win 100 percent of the fights you don't take.
              How can you know this when he's never fought one?

              Floyd and Ward don't fight alike so using him as an example is silly.

              You have nothing to actually base this on, frankly.

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              • -Kev-
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                #37
                Stevenson is a boxer first. If he tries to box Ward, he'd get outboxed. If he tries to attack Ward on an all out assault, which is unlikely, he'd play into Ward's counterpunching.

                I see no way other than a puncher's chance and with Ward's slickness and holding, slippery tactics, it will be very, very difficult to catch him clean.

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                • Death's Head
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                  #38
                  Ward clinches him 100+ times and lands his right hand for 12 rounds in a very anti-climatic fight.

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