Comments Thread For: Robert Garcia Explains Why He Trusts USADA, Not VADA

[maguirre]

Can't blame him. I would distrust VADA too if I were Peterson, Berto and Mayweather.

[umop-ap!sdn]

The cup had some PEE-E-D's in it

[JJRod]

Garcia needs to realize his beef isn't with VADA, rather his beef should be with Ariza. He is the paid strength and conditioning coach, he should know exactly what VADA test for, and make sure that what ever he gives Rios isn't against their rules. That is his job and he dropped the ball.

Garcia needs to make sure that Ariza isn't dropping the ball with his little brother Mikey Garcia whom Arum is determine to make the next superstar.

[Pocket Dogs!]

Garcia needs to realize his beef isn't with VADA, rather his beef should be with Ariza. He is the paid strength and conditioning coach, he should know exactly what VADA test for, and make sure that what ever he gives Rios isn't against their rules. That is his job and he dropped the ball.

Garcia needs to make sure that Ariza isn't dropping the ball with his little brother Mikey Garcia whom Arum is determine to make the next superstar.

I just can't believe that Ariza is ****** enough to let Rios take Jack3D while in China. If Ariza let Rios do that, just imagine what he let Manny do when they were together. As the article states, Rios told Gabriel Montoya that Ariza wasn't paid one penny for his services with him because he tested positive.

[radioraheem]

and that is the problem nobody knows NOTHING and how many videos do they have of Pac taking the test

This is an interesting point. And it was something Alex Ariza brought up very, very early on when the testing began. He said he heard from his contacts in the Philippines/China that they hadn't seen Pacquaio getting tested. And he said if Pacquaio was getting tested like Brandon Rios was, there is no way there wouldn't be photos or footage, especially photos. Because there's so much press around him.

But up til now, we only have footage and photos of Rios doing the tests out in the open publicly. It's a bit odd.

[radioraheem]

I just can't believe that Ariza is ****** enough to let Rios take Jack3D while in China. If Ariza let Rios do that, just imagine what he let Manny do when they were together. As the article states, Rios told Gabriel Montoya that Ariza wasn't paid one penny for his services with him because he tested positive.

Me either. That's a suspect supplement that's kinda well known to stay clear from if you taking tests.

I think maybe Ariza gave him a supplement that just so happened to be contaminated with traces of something banned (kinda like what happened with Andre Berto). Because even the positive that Rios had -- it was just trace amounts found.

[SplitSecond]

This is true. But while this is true, whatever third party VADA uses, is quite unprofessional. Because it wasn't just California where VADA was found testing Rios unprofessionally, but it also happened in China. So that would make for 2 separate parties taking samples unprofessionally.

And if you disbelieve, check out these two clips. One is Rios getting tested in the U.S., and the other in China. Both clips are questionable, with the China version is being the worse, as they got Rios literally standing out in public peeing right in front of the ring. The China clip begins with him pissing.

have seen it done like this with donaire countless times

never tested positive

and rios choosing to piss in the cup infront of everyone i think is simply his attitude, im sure he could have gone to some place more secluded like the restroom

[SplitSecond]

This is an interesting point. And it was something Alex Ariza brought up very, very early on when the testing began. He said he heard from his contacts in the Philippines/China that they hadn't seen Pacquaio getting tested. And he said if Pacquaio was getting tested like Brandon Rios was, there is no way there wouldn't be photos or footage, especially photos. Because there's so much press around him.

But up til now, we only have footage and photos of Rios doing the tests out in the open publicly. It's a bit odd.

it can mean somethin, or it can mean jack

rios' camp has seckback there all day everyday
everyday you can see a new video of rios training

pacquiao's camp there was hardly any footage, and when there was it was short and bad quality
much like the lead up to marquez iv(atleast i think it was that fight) next to no footage as roach wanted all the distractions gone, no press in the gym, and we got next to nothing

[Pocket Dogs!]

Me either. That's a suspect supplement that's kinda well known to stay clear from if you taking tests.

I think maybe Ariza gave him a supplement that just so happened to be contaminated with traces of something banned (kinda like what happened with Andre Berto). Because even the positive that Rios had -- it was just trace amounts found.

Jack3D has DMAA in it. It's just that stimulants aren't tested pre-fight during training because they don't matter. They tested for stimulants post-fight and that's what they got busted for.

[radioraheem]

have seen it done like this with donaire countless times

never tested positive

and rios choosing to piss in the cup infront of everyone i think is simply his attitude, im sure he could have gone to some place more secluded like the restroom

it can mean somethin, or it can mean jack

rios' camp has seckback there all day everyday
everyday you can see a new video of rios training

pacquiao's camp there was hardly any footage, and when there was it was short and bad quality
much like the lead up to marquez iv(atleast i think it was that fight) next to no footage as roach wanted all the distractions gone, no press in the gym, and we got next to nothing

Usually, professional testers won't just let an athlete stand like that publicly to take a sample. Nor do they do that with blood sampling either. Usually, they'll take him away to a more private area and cleaner area, and then get the sample.

You are right. No footage of Pacquaio can mean nothing, or it could mean something. The US footage I posted came Chris Robinson. But the China footage, didn't come either Seckbach or Chris Robinson.