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Dereck Chisora vs. Alexander Povetkin
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Originally posted by yoz View PostChisora has looked vulnerable since the Vitali and Haye beatdowns, too.
He has looked very vulnerable as of late especially against that non durable Argentinian.
I don't buy he looks better, he has got some better scalps for sure but I feel he has looked worse personally. Scott, Johnson, that Argie guy, even Pala he showed vulnerabilities against them all
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Originally posted by Weebler I View PostIn Moscow, Povetkin. In London, Chisora. Povetkin has no inside game.
But...this fight doesn't get made.
Chisora is a nut for wanting to go to Moscow to fight PovetkinOriginally posted by yoz View PostWhat? Povetkin has no inside game?Originally posted by dan_cov View PostJust because he doesn't spend the whole duration in the pocket doesn't mean he has no inside game. Povetkin is very good inside as displayed against another very good in fighter in Chagaev and many others.
WTF makes anybody think Chisora is even good inside? That guy does nothing but rabbit punch, slap & smother his damn self. Kevin Johnson is better inside he just has zero workrate
People are way too high on Chisora, he is barely a fringe contender in an atrocious division. He doesn't bring uppercuts up or anything just big slapping 'hooks' windmills.
Its actually sad to see a guy and this may sound harsh but a guy who is that **** have any sort of real success. Just shows me that virtually anybody with some, size, strength, determination & whiskers can succeed in todays division. He is absolutely useless and has virtually zero boxing ability at all.
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WHOAH People need to calm the hell down with this "Chisora isn't on Povetkin's level". Vital outworked Chisora but he didn't put Chisora down like Wlad did to Povetkin. If Wlad wasn't such a little girl when it came to action and actually fought he could have taken Povetkin out.
Not to mention Chisora didn't hide for years from his title shot. Povetkin for the last few years was "not ready" yet Chisora fought Helenius, Fury, Vital, and Haye all almost back to back. That's four the hardest punchers out there and all highly regard when they fought them when Povetkins best wins are boring ass Chagev and Eddie Chambers. Sure they are slightly better then Chisoras best wins but come on. Chisora would beat them too IMO.
This is as 50/50 as it gets. I agree with Weebler. If the ref let's Chisora do his thing he winds gritty UD possible stoppage. If the ref breaks it up Povetkin wins by late KO.
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Originally posted by dan_cov View PostJust because he doesn't spend the whole duration in the pocket doesn't mean he has no inside game. Povetkin is very good inside as displayed against another very good in fighter in Chagaev and many others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=jZOEmOs7M14
WTF makes anybody think Chisora is even good inside? That guy does nothing but rabbit punch, slap & smother his damn self. Kevin Johnson is better inside he just has zero workrate.
People are way too high on Chisora, he is barely a fringe contender in an atrocious division. He doesn't bring uppercuts up or anything just big slapping 'hooks' windmills.
Its actually sad to see a guy and this may sound harsh but a guy who is that **** have any sort of real success. Just shows me that virtually anybody with some, size, strength, determination & whiskers can succeed in todays division. He is absolutely useless and has virtually zero boxing ability at all.). Not balanced at all.
Last edited by Weebler I; 02-16-2014, 07:30 AM.
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This is a tough fight to call, Chisora is vulnerable to hard punchers and Povetkin can hit relatively hard himself. On the other hand, he will be busier and quicker than almost all of Povetkin's past opponents and has a great come forward, never-say-die attitude. Povetkin doesn't, to me anyway, seem to have that fighting spirit but maybe his technical superiority will be enough to dispatch of Chisora, who by his own admissions, can be lazy at times.
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Originally posted by Weebler I View PostI'm judging on what I've watched Stallion. Povektin prefers to fight from distance. Chisora closes the distance and stays on your chest. He'd maul Povetkin in London, but stands a good chance of getting clipped in Moscow (the style of reffing being determinative).
There's also a question of Povetkin's punch resistance now, I didn't like what Wladimir did but he gave Povetkin a sustained beating. Same goes for Chisora post-Haye.
Chisora's offense is awful. He is very inaccurate and there isn't much weight behind his punches either. Not to mention footwork, sense of distance, mobility, speed and other segments of the game. If he were to trade with Povetkin, he would barely land anything very significant and do you think that he would withstand getting constantly hit by Povetkin's combinations? He would come forward and close the distance, that's the only thing he is capable of doing. But what is he going to do once the distance is closed and he is in front of Povetkin? Is he going to trade? I think that he would, and Povetkin would put a serious beating on him in that case. You can't just come forward and trade with someone who hits harder than you and is so much accurate than you. If that was the case, Chisora would either back off and get hurt. I have a good feeling about this fight getting signed and it would be very interesting to see what would people say about Chisora if Povetkin would to outclass him.Last edited by Stallion_; 02-16-2014, 06:19 PM.
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