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  • #71
    Originally posted by Flash13 View Post
    The fight will never happen once manny leaves tr floyd will just retire or offer him like a 1 mill purse no ppv money... Ridiculous so sad for the sport. At least roger is willing to admit the cowardice, hence why he is out of Floyd's inner circle.
    Didn't Manny say he'd fight Floyd for free???

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    • #72
      Floyd Joy has a point.. All the biggest fighters that were with Arum eventually ventured off and did their own thing...

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      • #73
        Originally posted by LarryXXX
        Floyd fight or not ,Arum is ass raping Manny and it is well publicized....why not leave?
        "take the test and we have a fight". Floyd.
        Larry..."all Manny has to do is take the test and Floyd will fight him. in fact, if Manny really wanted to prove he wanted to fight floyd he would do testing in his own fights. come on Manny take the test"


        Manny accepts testing to fight floyd and even does it in his own fights.

        "Manny has to leave arum"

        Larry ..."yea Manny needs to leave arum to prove he wants to fight Floyd."


        Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

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        • #74
          Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
          Floyd Joy has a point.. All the biggest fighters that were with Arum eventually ventured off and did their own thing...
          Hope it happens. Even if leaves Arum and the Floyd fights doesnt happen, ay least it would be a payback for ****ing him over the years. Who will be TR superstar once Pac leaves? Bradley? Rios? Marquez? Prov? Mikey? LOL Would be a great payback. GB has still some good WW that Manny could put a beating on for some good money.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
            Floyd Joy has a point.. All the biggest fighters that were with Arum eventually ventured off and did their own thing...
            Yes, because Floyd Sr's gives two ****s about Pacquiao's star and wealth ascending by leaving Bob Arum.

            I can see why Pac fans want Manny to leave Bob.

            But why do the Mayweathers?

            Do they care about Pac getting his taxes in order too?

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            • #76
              Still amazed that about 100% of fight fans accept that at the moment, GBP and TR aren't working together, except when it comes to Floyd-Manny.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by hitking View Post
                Still amazed that about 100% of fight fans accept that at the moment, GBP and TR aren't working together, except when it comes to Floyd-Manny.
                This war is so bad for boxing. Promoters dont give a **** about us who buy the PPV, who dont miss a fight on HBO or Showtime, that watches every ESPN FNF. Thats BS and hope the day that Arum dies, the one who takes over can try to fix all the problems that happened with GB. Im getting tired of this ****.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by stovepipe View Post
                  Mayweather and team desperately try to focus on maintaining any semblance of believability within mainstream perception that Floyd is not scared. Nobody but a moron believes them at this point. They just keep finding a different issue, every time. Floyd was smart not to fight Manny, look at all the money he has made. Casual PPV buying boxing fans probably have the lowest IQ of any sports fan out there. Floyd only needs to hang on to the perception that he is not a coward, the reality of actually not being one does not necessarily make him richer. Could Floyd had made more money that he already has over the five years if he fought Manny? Well yes and no. The fight itself would have been the biggest payday in the history of sports however, he could have gotten seriously injured or humiliated in the ring and have had a much lesser subsequent career arc because of it, the answer is, maybe, the answer is, why take the risk when, financially, you are just fine without doing so, and more than that, financially you can do quite well without the risk, because casual boxing fans are like Menudo fans or New Kids on the Block fans, they are **** swallowers.

                  Floyd Sr is simply trying to maintain the ever retreating battle for public perception that Manny Pacquiao and / or Bob Arum are the reason this fight has not been made. By keeping that question within the mind of the **** swallowers, that challenge, those same **** swallowers won't feel ****** when they ooh and aaah at Floyd as he takes care of the Ortiz's, Guerrero's and Kahn's of the world.

                  As long as they can keep the dummies thinking "THEY should fight" rather than the more accurate perception that "Floyd should stop running from Manny" than Floyd can just keep finding another and another excuse, and keep taking their money for lesser opponents.

                  This doesn't mean I think Pac would necessarily win, but I do think that Floyd thinks Pac presents a very high risk fight that could end in brutal KO, for himself.

                  I also don't think Pac, nor Arum are somehow angels within all of this, but ultimately they WANT the fight 100% and have sincerely wanted the fight 100% for years and years, and Mayweather DOES NOT WANT THE FIGHT 100% and hasn't for years and years. Mayweather and Co are only interested in maintaining the perception that they do, and keeping in check the concept that they are 100% uninterested.

                  But again, its hard to blame them when Mayweather is making a lot of money without it. But of course he doesn't want it. What are they splitting 150 mill? Twice that? He is getting 60%. They can do any and all testing. They can fight in Vegas. And now, Arum cannot be involved at all.

                  Its silly. I can't see anybody really believing Floyd wants this fight unless they are just playing devil's advocate trolling or they are really dumb or really uninformed, or both.


                  Take it easy kid take it easy...

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by FloydsLostBalls View Post
                    "take the test and we have a fight". Floyd.
                    Larry..."all Manny has to do is take the test and Floyd will fight him. in fact, if Manny really wanted to prove he wanted to fight floyd he would do testing in his own fights. come on Manny take the test"


                    Manny accepts testing to fight floyd and even does it in his own fights.

                    "Manny has to leave arum"

                    Larry ..."yea Manny needs to leave arum to prove he wants to fight Floyd."


                    Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android
                    Two historically unprecedented demands by one fighter onto another.

                    Floyd simply didn't, and doesn't, want that fight. I wish he would just be honest with his fans so everyone could just move on.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by Realizniguhnit View Post
                      Floyd Joy has a point.. All the biggest fighters that were with Arum eventually ventured off and did their own thing...
                      Arum promoted 26 of Muhammed Ali's fights. ALL of Hagler's fights, and they never ever had more than a handshake contract. In fact when Don King was whispering in Hagler's wife's ear to get him to switch, Hagler told her exactly where to go...... "If you don't stop interfering in my business affairs I'll stop supporting your mother". He has said this numerous times. And Arum's top fighters of their times are too numerous to list. Cotto allowed fan pressure over that fake claim about Margarito's "plaster bricks" to affect him, so when his contract was up, he left temporarily, and after the Mayweather fight he returned to Arum on a fight=by=fight basis. He has been promoted by Arum for his whole career except for that one year.....

                      Arum is renowned as the greatest promoter in boxing history- and there were many "greats".

                      Oscar and Phoney Phloyd (because he thought Arum wasn't promoting him well enough) are the only major fighters to leave Top Rank with malice-that I know of. There may be more, but if so, surely phoney would be dragging them up....

                      I suggest that you educate yourself ...a little...before "sounding off" --like a kid shouting into an empty dustbin--.. by looking it up on the internet.
                      Last edited by edgarg; 02-10-2014, 06:55 PM. Reason: typo

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