Comments Thread For: Mayweather Sr. To Pacquiao: Leave Arum and Fight Floyd

[hitking]

All your responses for 72 hours straight are coming from a cell phone. Dude you are really full of it. This is why I consistently say that your come across just cannot be trusted. You will do or say anything to save face. You seem to really have a problem and your rapid fire, non factual responses to any and everybody all but confirms that. The first path to recovery is to admit that you have a problem, and a PROBLEM, you my friend have a big one. For the record, I don't have a problem dueling with someone who is objective, a clear minded individual, a non flip flopper or wishy washer but you my friend are all of those things and on top of it, you ability to reason is non existent so why should I waste my time. A year kicking it with you, I don't even spend that kind of time with my woman. Remember a broke dude like me gotta make money. Broke..I bet I could buy your whole household with tonnes of money left over.

Man f.uck all that bull****. It don't matter my clouded my judggement is in your mind. That ain't got a muthaf.uckin' thing to do with picking fights head-2-head. If you that much better, expose me. I'm willing to match my boxing IQ against your's publically. Let's go. No more excuses.you beat me. I leave. I beat you, you leave.

[junior gong]

Man f.uck all that bull****. It don't matter my clouded my judggement is in your mind. That ain't got a muthaf.uckin' thing to do with picking fights head-2-head. If you that much better, expose me. I'm willing to match my boxing IQ against your's publically. Let's go. No more excuses.you beat me. I leave. I beat you, you leave.

[hitking]

Ironically, you get on here everyday b1tchin' about Floyd duckin' people. Yet you convienently ignore this puss duckin' my fight picks challenge. Simply because he supports your agenda. Are we gonna be that big a hypocrite today??

[carloscruz10009]

He just challenged you to a duel, and that's how you respond? The response is either YES or NO.

I agree.. Take the test... Umm I mean challenge... Why the excuses?

[Jsmooth9876]

OK fine. But when he came back, he fought the guy who finished on top of the heap, and embarrassed him.

He came back and fought a guy 2 weight classes below his and failed to make weight. Then fought Shane coming off a 16 month layoff. Canelo is the only good win he has in the last few years that matters and he screwed that up by having the catch weight. Floyd could have been a legend if he was willing to fight some guys at their best through the years or even moved up to challenge someone like Martinez for a chance at the middle weight title. I understand he makes a ton of money for fighting guys like Guerrero ,Ortiz, and Khan but legacy is built on super fights not sparring sessions against B level guys.just my 2 cents...

[hitking]

I agree.. Take the test... Umm I mean challenge... Why the excuses?

I ain't even worried about it no more. Hey Los, let's put Pac-Boy in our FB group. I bet you 100 Unc calls him a f.uckin' ****** after about three posts. LOL!!!

BTW, is it even possible to hate Floyd more than Unc? I promise. As much as he hates Floyd, he'd still go in on Pac-Boy.

[hitking]

He came back and fought a guy 2 weight classes below his and failed to make weight. Then fought Shane coming off a 16 month layoff. Canelo is the only good win he has in the last few years that matters and he screwed that up by having the catch weight. Floyd could have been a legend if he was willing to fight some guys at their best through the years or even moved up to challenge someone like Martinez for a chance at the middle weight title. I understand he makes a ton of money for fighting guys like Guerrero ,Ortiz, and Khan but legacy is built on super fights not sparring sessions against B level guys.just my 2 cents...

This is what I can't understand for the life of me. JMM has shown himself to be an adequate welterweight. At the time, it didn't look like a good match-up. But JMM has shown he can compete in that division against everyone not named Floyd Mayweather. Floyd didn't make the catchweight. But there was no catchweight when he sparked Manny out. And Floyd fought JMM after a two year layoff. You use a 16 month layoff to dismiss his win over Shane. Does Floyd not get the same pass?

Then you complain about Mosley. This dude was coming off probably the second or third best win in his career. He was pretty much the concensus P4P #3. Eight months before the fight when he jumped in Floyd's face after the JMM fight, everybody said Floyd got punked out and was scared of Shane. How did it go from Floyd's scared and will never fight him to Mosley was old in eight months.

Then you complain about the catchweight with Canelo. I don't like catchweights either. But let's be real, did it matter that much? Does Manny's win over Cotto not count because of the catchweight? Does Manny's win over DLH not count because DLH was fighting 7lbs lower than he had in nearly a decade? Do you not respect Manny as an eight division champ? Because he won two of those titles in catchweight fights? Its goes both ways.

And then you say he should move up to middleweight. Would I like to see him try it? Of course. But I don't hold it against him if he doesn't. I mean% he's won titles infive divisions. At some point he had to fight bigger guys did he not?

And as for his legacy. Floyd did enough BEFORE he got to the welterweight division to be a first ballot HOF'r. Genaro Hernandez was the man at 30. Floyd fights him in his 17th-18th pro fight. Who the hell wanted any part of Chico Corrales in those days? Castillo was a fringe P4P guy. Dude's resume is solid. Dislike for him as a person clouds ya'lls judgement. Its simple as that.

[ADP02]

So you would rather fight a titlist who won a vacant title...rather then fight"THE CHAMP"??? MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL

Floyd fought Judah who lost to Baldomir. Makes sense, huh?

[hitking]

Floyd fought Judah who lost to Baldomir. Makes sense, huh?

Very similar to the way Manny fought Morales, who lost to Raheem. Only difference is. In Floyd's next fight, he fought the guy that beat Judah, which he's also criticized for. LOL!!! Manny fought Morales for a third time. Explain to me how many comes out better in that. Cause I've never been able to make sense of it.

[Jsmooth9876]

This is what I can't understand for the life of me. JMM has shown himself to be an adequate welterweight. At the time, it didn't look like a good match-up. But JMM has shown he can compete in that division against everyone not named Floyd Mayweather. Floyd didn't make the catchweight. But there was no catchweight when he sparked Manny out. And Floyd fought JMM after a two year layoff. You use a 16 month layoff to dismiss his win over Shane. Does Floyd not get the same pass?

Then you complain about Mosley. This dude was coming off probably the second or third best win in his career. He was pretty much the concensus P4P #3. Eight months before the fight when he jumped in Floyd's face after the JMM fight, everybody said Floyd got punked out and was scared of Shane. How did it go from Floyd's scared and will never fight him to Mosley was old in eight months.

Then you complain about the catchweight with Canelo. I don't like catchweights either. But let's be real, did it matter that much? Does Manny's win over Cotto not count because of the catchweight? Does Manny's win over DLH not count because DLH was fighting 7lbs lower than he had in nearly a decade? Do you not respect Manny as an eight division champ? Because he won two of those titles in catchweight fights? Its goes both ways.

And then you say he should move up to middleweight. Would I like to see him try it? Of course. But I don't hold it against him if he doesn't. I mean% he's won titles infive divisions. At some point he had to fight bigger guys did he not?

And as for his legacy. Floyd did enough BEFORE he got to the welterweight division to be a first ballot HOF'r. Genaro Hernandez was the man at 30. Floyd fights him in his 17th-18th pro fight. Who the hell wanted any part of Chico Corrales in those days? Castillo was a fringe P4P guy. Dude's resume is solid. Dislike for him as a person clouds ya'lls judgement. Its simple as that.

First off, I never brought Manny into this conversation even once. Don't see the need to compare Manny vs Marquez and Floyd vs Marquez. Styles make fights first off, and Marquez clearly has either grown into a welter or "enhanced" his body into welter. He was drinking piss coming Ito the Mayweather fight and looked bloated and weak. Now he's yoked up and powerful.
Shane didn't come back and fight a guy that had to come up 2 weight classes after his 16 month layoff so there's no comparison is there?
I agree Floyd fought good fighters BEFORE he became this PPV star and before the big paydays started. Now it's take the easiest fight and make the money while taking the least amount of risk.
He could have made HUnDREDS of millions against Manny over the last few years but instead we see him against Ortiz and Guerrero types and now probably Khan? Floyd could have been so much more but that zero means everything to him.