Who has the better resume: Kirkland or Lara?

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  • Ringlife
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    #21
    To me Lara has the better resume between these two fighters.

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    • BoxingGenius27
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      #22
      Originally posted by DannYankee09
      Lara by a country mile and fail obviously biased thread from the beginning.
      Originally posted by boliodogs
      Lara by a mile. Kirkland had a chance to rematch the Japanese fighter that KOed him in one round but he turned the fight down and there by turned down a chance to redeem himself. Lara is a better more accomplished fighter with a better record and that's why he is ranked well above Kirkland by every organization I know that ranks fighters.
      It's not by a mile/country mile.

      It's very close in my book.

      Brian Vera has pretty good accomplishments. He beat Dzinziruk, Sergio Mora x2, undefeated Lee and I thought he beat Chavez Jr in a blatant robbery.

      Joel Julio is a pretty good win as well. Him KO'ing K-9 comes to mind.

      Angulo - both have mutual victories over Angulo.

      I think Kirk's win over Tapia is better than Lara's victory over Hernandez.

      Trout has never been that good in my book, but I give Lara credit for it. Kirk's victory over Vera is the equivalent.

      Paul Williams was clearly over the hill with lots of mileage when he fought Lara. But I still give Lara credit for the victory.

      Cool, if people say they favor Lara, that's fine. But it's not by a country mile like some are saying. It's actually very close
      Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 02-09-2014, 01:08 PM.

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        #23
        Lara may have the better Resume and be a better fighter, but I will ALWAYS tune into a Kirkland fight enthusiastically. I cannot say the same with Lara.

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          #24
          Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
          It's not by a mile/country mile.

          It's very close in my book.

          Brian Vera has pretty good accomplishments. He beat Dzinziruk, undefeated Lee and I thought he beat Chavez Jr in a blatant robbery.

          Joel Julio is a pretty good win as well. Him KO'ing K-9 comes to mind.

          Angulo - both have mutual victories over Angulo.

          I think Kirk's win over Tapia is better than Lara's victory over Hernandez.

          Trout has never been that good in my book, but I give Lara credit for it. Kirk's victory over Vera is the equivalent.

          Paul Williams was clearly over the hill with lots of mileage when he fought Lara. But I still give Lara credit for the victory.

          Cool, if people say they favor Lara, that's fine. But it's not by a country mile like some are saying. It's actually very close
          lara also beat martrisoyan and molina but didn't get the decisions because he's boring. don't bother saying molina beat him because he was hitting gloves all fight and teddy atlas gave molina the first 4 rounds for doing nothing which seemed to influence weak-minded individuals.

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            #25
            Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
            It's not by a mile/country mile.

            It's very close in my book.

            Brian Vera has pretty good accomplishments. He beat Dzinziruk, undefeated Lee and I thought he beat Chavez Jr in a blatant robbery.

            Joel Julio is a pretty good win as well. Him KO'ing K-9 comes to mind.

            Angulo - both have mutual victories over Angulo.

            I think Kirk's win over Tapia is better than Lara's victory over Hernandez.

            Trout has never been that good in my book, but I give Lara credit for it. Kirk's victory over Vera is the equivalent.

            Paul Williams was clearly over the hill with lots of mileage when he fought Lara. But I still give Lara credit for the victory.

            Cool, if people say they favor Lara, that's fine. But it's not by a country mile like some are saying. It's actually very close

            Here I'll bring your op into reality.



            Kirkland

            Vera<----Lol? Just cause JCC jr made him look good for once he gets to be here? He is the crappiest gatekeeper in boxing.
            Julio< again lol?
            Angulo< Angulo looked like dog**** in that fight not even half the guy Lara faced that was a real diminished guy with no stamina not Paul.
            Tapia Again why!???!?
            *Molina - Even though Molina clinched 118 times in 10 rounds, it was a BS stoppage for Kirkland. I still feel Kirk deserved the W because the BS stoppage made up for the BS cheating. Eye for an eye in my book.

            A DQ is his best win.

            Lara

            Trout> Any win in Kirkland resume your book is apparently not the same everyone else, and further proof is that Canelo beating him even in a competitive close fight gave him a ticket to FMJ show. Lara dominated him was not even competitive.

            Angulo> Lara faced would kick the **** out of kirkland and himself of that night he lost combined.

            Hernandez> a meaningless mention like Vera and Tapia.
            Hearns > same as above

            Paul Williams here is the real version; he got put to sleep after beating Sergio once he was not punch drunk, or anything of the sort nobody said he was done and this would have been only his 3rd loss of his great career. By no means did he look diminished people just overacted because they didn't give credit to Lara being that good, so they thought Paul should hang it up which was wrong since Lara has proved he is the goods no shame in loosing to him.

            Yes by a country mile

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              #26
              Lara by FAR. Kirkland's best win is a DQ in which he was getting schooled and he has one of the worst single losses of all time.

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                #27
                @ DannYankee09

                Add Sergio Mora x2 to Vera's resume..

                And how in the world are you coming up with the fact that the Angulo Lara faced was soooo much better than the Angulo Kirkland faced????? Angulo was slow as I don't know what against Lara.

                Why would Kirk have so difficult of a time against this version of Angulo?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by PBP
                  Lara by FAR. Kirkland's best win is a DQ in which he was getting schooled and he has one of the worst single losses of all time.
                  Lara's best win is either Angulo or Trout... Which one is it?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BoxingGenius27
                    @ Dann Yankee

                    Add Sergio Mora x2 to Vera's resume..

                    And how in the world are you coming up with the fact that the Angulo Lara faced was soooo much better than the Angulo Kirkland faced????? Angulo was slow as I don't know what against Lara.


                    Why would Kirk have so difficult of a time against this version of Angulo?
                    Angulo has always been a slow fk is the relentless pressure that gets you which was the one thing he ran out of in the kirkland he fight he completely 100% gassed out after throwing less than half the punches threw against Lara maybe thats why? He was completely punched out after 200 damn punches if that would have happened in the Lara fight that fight would have looked hilariously different the dude was well on his way to throwing close to 1k punches if he would have gone 12 in the Lara fight.

                    And you seriously pursuing the Vera is a big name worthy of note to have in your resume line?

                    That's not a good argument. I stripped the ****tiest guys you listed for both guys that is all.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DannYankee09
                      Angulo has always been a slow fk is the relentless pressure that gets you which was the one thing he ran out of in the kirkland he fight he completely 100% gassed out after throwing less than half the punches threw against Lara maybe thats why? He was completely punched out after 200 damn punches if that would have happened in the Lara fight that fight would have looked hilariously different the dude was well on his way to throwing close to 1k punches if he would have gone 12 in the Lara fight.

                      And you seriously pursuing the Vera is a big name worthy of note to have in your resume line?

                      That's not a good argument. I stripped the ****tiest guys you listed for both guys that is all.
                      The vera win for Kirkland is the equivalent for Lara's over Trout... Yes. Outside of Cotto, what has Austin Trout really done? He has zero power with an awkward style.. I've never been big on that dude. Vera has actually beat more credible opponents than Trout has. I'm just being honest

                      Lastly, I don't know how many times I have to tell you guys that Angulo didn't punch himself out, it was an uppercut from Kirkland that stopped him in his tracks. Max Kellerman even acknowledged this punch from Kirkland when it happened. Angulo went on to knock the snot out of Kirkland (literally) several times after the first round which isn't bad for a punched out fighter. Maybe I should start a thread with video debunking this "punched out" theory.

                      Again, I still fail to see your logic on why the Lara Angulo faced was better than the one Kirkland faced. I take that back, your logic makes no sense to me
                      Last edited by BoxingGenius27; 02-09-2014, 01:45 PM.

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