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  • Larry the boss
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    #21
    Please tell me ya'll are not now hyping Angulo for crying out loud

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    • wiz1030
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      #22
      Originally posted by LarryXXX
      Please tell me ya'll are not now hyping Angulo for crying out loud
      Didn't make this thread to hype Angulo. I posed the question because Angulo's stock could rise if he defeats Mayweather's last opponent soundly. Especially since Canelo was so highly touted in his hype period.


      Also, Angulo checks the nationality box when it comes to the preference of Floyd Mayweather opponents. Of course I don't think Perro beats Floyd, but I thought there could be a chance he could get a chance to see him in the ring. Just wanted to see if others think it could play out like that also.

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      • BafanaBafana
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        #23
        Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
        No it doesn't, it was the fact that Lara pulls out with his right hand down to his waist, the fact that again he doesn't get under punches. Besides the straight left hand Lara failed to give Angulo anything else to worry about.
        The fact that Lara had trouble fighting away from the ropes doesn't change the fact that Angulo was able to get him on the ropes in the first place. I do agree that Lara wasn't able to trouble Angulo for most of the fight, which is part of the reason why he had the larger man chasing him down relentlessly throughout the entire fight. Mayweather would undoubtedly do better on the ropes than Lara did, but he would also have to deal with the same relentless pressure for 12 rounds none stop.


        Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
        I'm truly convinced that your infatuation with Lara has you seeing things that aren't even there, even overrating Angulo who isn't even that good to begin with, Cintron outboxed him lets not forget. Now the bold, look who's excreting high levels of ******ity, Margarito's conditioning and durability allowed him to run after his opponents if willing, his ability to mix up his attack was far better, better hand and foot speed.
        Angulo was pretty green (only 15 fights on him) when he fought Cintron, Cintron actually outweighed him by 10 pounds (Angulo 159, 169). At the time, the heavier Cintron was able to keep the green inexperienced Angulo at bay.

        Source: http://www.fight writer.com/kermit-cintron-w12-alfredo-angulo

        Angulo is a lot like Margarito, same height, same reach, good stamina and chin, but with more power. No, he is not a carbon copy of Margarito (don't put words in my mouth) but they have a similar approach with the smaller Margarito providing a greater output per round. Regardless, both guys have been known for their hard chins and relentless pressure.


        Also, before you go full ****** on me, my argument is not that Angulo beats Mayweather but that Angulo is a tougher fight for Mayweather than Baldomir was since you're the idiot that brought that ridiculous argument up.

        Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma
        If that fight ever happen it's gonna look more one sided than Mayweather-Baldomir
        Again, ******ed troll post...
        Last edited by BafanaBafana; 02-07-2014, 08:16 PM.

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        • 4Corners
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          #24
          Possibly. But I think Golden Boy would then make Lara-Angulo II given it was really an even fight.

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          • boliodogs
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            #25
            I don't think he would fight him if he beat Canelo. Remember he made Canelo go to 152 and still he only fought him because it was the biggest possible money maker for him. Angulo won't bring Canelo type money even if he KOs Canelo.

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            • elfag
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              #26
              Originally posted by BafanaBafana
              Vernon Forrest (a career welterweight) had decent power but he wasn't a knockout artist by any means and he wouldn't stop Angulo (a big career JMW) unless its from swelling.

              And again, your an idiot if you think the short (5'7, 160 pound) Baldomir could take Mayweather's punches better than Angulo (5'11, 174 pounds) would.

              Note: I would also have loved to see a Mayweather v. Forrest fight, the style match up would have been very interesting.



              Baldomir fought in straight lines and his short 67' reach made it that much more difficult for him to cut the ring. He's greatest asset was his 'intensity' which allowed him to win decisions despite being notoriously pillow-handed.
              Angulo (5'11 72' reach, 174 pounds) if you've watched any of his fights, is much better at cutting off the ring, which is what he would need to do against Floyd.

              Also keep in mind you're talking up a guy who had 10 losses and 6 draws going into the Mayweather fight... and who wasn't remotely competitive against Floyd and Forrest (two opponents against whom he needed to cut the ring off effectively to stay competitive and which he clearly didn't know how to do).

              Angulo was at least able to cut the ring on the fast-footed (and former Cuban amateur star) Lara, which speaks volumes about his ability to implement effective pressure.


              forest would bust up angulo who gets hit easy. He could very well stop him

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              • Erislandy lara
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                #27
                He should first avenge his loss to Lara. Lara will beat him in a rematch again

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                • BendOver
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by BafanaBafana
                  The fact that Lara had trouble fighting away from the ropes doesn't change the fact that Angulo was able to get him on the ropes in the first place. I do agree that Lara wasn't able to trouble Angulo for most of the fight, which is part of the reason why he had the larger man chasing him down relentlessly throughout the entire fight. Mayweather would undoubtedly do better on the ropes than Lara did, but he would also have to deal with the same relentless pressure for 12 rounds none stop.




                  Angulo was pretty green (only 15 fights on him) when he fought Cintron, Cintron actually outweighed him by 10 pounds (Angulo 159, 169). At the time, the heavier Cintron was able to keep the green inexperienced Angulo at bay.

                  Source: http://www.fight writer.com/kermit-cintron-w12-alfredo-angulo

                  Angulo is a lot like Margarito, same height, same reach, good stamina and chin, but with more power. No, he is not a carbon copy of Margarito (don't put words in my mouth) but they have a similar approach with the smaller Margarito providing a greater output per round. Regardless, both guys have been known for their hard chins and relentless pressure.


                  Also, before you go full ****** on me, my argument is not that Angulo beats Mayweather but that Angulo is a tougher fight for Mayweather than Baldomir was since you're the idiot that brought that ridiculous argument up.



                  Again, ******ed troll post...
                  The fact that the ring was a phone booth and the mat a memory foam may had accounted for angulo getting to Lara, and troubled he did, he trouble him so much that he quit...

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                  • Doctor_Tenma
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BafanaBafana
                    The fact that Lara had trouble fighting away from the ropes doesn't change the fact that Angulo was able to get him on the ropes in the first place. I do agree that Lara wasn't able to trouble Angulo for most of the fight, which is part of the reason why he had the larger man chasing him down relentlessly throughout the entire fight. Mayweather would undoubtedly do better on the ropes than Lara did, but he would also have to deal with the same relentless pressure for 12 rounds none stop.




                    Angulo was pretty green (only 15 fights on him) when he fought Cintron, Cintron actually outweighed him by 10 pounds (Angulo 159, 169). At the time, the heavier Cintron was able to keep the green inexperienced Angulo at bay.

                    Source: http://www.fight writer.com/kermit-cintron-w12-alfredo-angulo

                    Angulo is a lot like Margarito, same height, same reach, good stamina and chin, but with more power. No, he is not a carbon copy of Margarito (don't put words in my mouth) but they have a similar approach with the smaller Margarito providing a greater output per round. Regardless, both guys have been known for their hard chins and relentless pressure.


                    Also, before you go full ****** on me, my argument is not that Angulo beats Mayweather but that Angulo is a tougher fight for Mayweather than Baldomir was since you're the idiot that brought that ridiculous argument up.



                    Again, ******ed troll post...
                    No he wouldn't, Floyd would have mixed up his attack more, gone to the body, move more unpredictably, then smother and tie his man up. Lara doesn't even do directional feints, this all falls under you overrating Lara really. Angulo was green you say but when has he looked better? Joel Julio used the same Cintron approach and had plenty of success. Margarito and Angulo share the same approach but one is clearly the far superior and Margarito slicing through Cintron twice while Cintron outboxed Angulo is only a testament to that. It's weird that because Lara is your guy, you like many other choose to see things that aren't there. Lara struggled with a man he wasn't expected to struggle against, live with it and don't make shit up.

                    In the bold we'll simply agree to disagree, I already brought up why I strongly disagree with that, brought up actual facts that can't be disputed but because of your weird infatuation with Lara that doesn't allow you to see right, I can't rationalize with you. Never thought I'd be talking about two fighters who aren't even that good
                    Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 02-08-2014, 07:47 AM.

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                    • TrevorBrinley
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                      #30
                      I wouldnt think so, because Angulo has shown he make adjustments to deal with boxers.

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