If Angulo stops Canelo...

[Doctor_Tenma]

Assuming no catchweight Angulo should make Mayweather work for the win. Angulo is no Baldomir (a short pillow-fisted journeyman at best), he'll be walking through Floyd punches like m&m's and pulling his weight on the smaller Floyd to tire him faster. Angulo is also very heavy handed, if Floyd isn't careful a couple hooks could easily drop him. Overall a good fight, but I'd much rather see Mayweather fight Lara (the best 154 punder) who could match him in speed and footwork, but with better reach and power (worse inside game, but that wouldn't be a weakness Floyd would exploit since both guys fight on the outside).

Besides being a bigger puncher Baldomir's hand speed and foot speed is actually better than Angulo's which is quite laughable, his chin is better as well. It'd be equally as one sided as the Baldomir fight or more.

I'd like the Lara fight as well but I don't see it happening, Lara would have to beat a Cotto, Canelo or Martinez to heighten his profile.

[Hougigo]

Probably....he was in it before

[BafanaBafana]

Besides being a bigger puncher Baldomir's hand speed and foot speed is actually better than Angulo's which is quite laughable, his chin is better as well. It'd be equally as one sided as the Baldomir fight or more.

I'd like the Lara fight as well but I don't see it happening, Lara would have to beat a Cotto, Canelo or Martinez to heighten his profile.

I really doubt there's anything Baldomir is better at than Angulo (Baldomir was a short pillow-fisted come-forward brawler, is there anything worse?). Yeah, both guys are pressure fighters but the 5'11 (174 pound) 72' reach Angulo is much better at cutting off the ring than the 5'7 (160 POUND) 67' reach Baldomir; and if you think Baldomir could take Mayweather's punches much better than the much larger Angulo then you're an idiot. Period.

I'm not saying Angulo beats Mayweather, but he would make Mayweather work for that win (assuming no catchweight or rehydration limit) and would have a good puncher's chance.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I really doubt there's anything Baldomir is better at than Angulo (Baldomir was a short pillow-fisted come-forward brawler, is there anything worse?). Yeah, both guys are pressure fighters but the 5'11 (174 pound) 72' reach Angulo is much better at cutting off the ring than the 5'7 (160 POUND) 67' reach Baldomir; and if you think Baldomir could take Mayweather's punches much better than the much larger Angulo then you're an idiot. Period.

I'm not saying Angulo beats Mayweather, but he would make Mayweather work for that win (assuming no catchweight or rehydration limit) and would have a good puncher's chance.

Baldomir took Vernon Forrest's punches and Forrest was trying to take him out from the getgo, punches that would have taken Angulo out

Angulo is slow so it'd depend on your interpretation of working cause I don't see it being any harder than Baldomir.

[Doctor_Tenma]

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Say what you may but Baldomir was most noted for his chin, you sound ******ed questioning that of all things

Pay attention to commentating, Emanuel is actually impressed with Baldomir's speed. Not even trying to big up his speed at all but he's noticeably faster with his hands and feet than Angulo which is quite sad.

[BafanaBafana]

Baldomir took Vernon Forrest's punches and Forrest was trying to take him out from the getgo, punches that would have taken Angulo out

Angulo is slow so it'd depend on your interpretation of working cause I don't see it being any harder than Baldomir.

Vernon Forrest (a career welterweight) had decent power but he wasn't a knockout artist by any means and he wouldn't stop Angulo (a big career JMW) unless its from swelling.

And again, your an idiot if you think the short (5'7, 160 pound) Baldomir could take Mayweather's punches better than Angulo (5'11, 174 pounds) would.

Note: I would also have loved to see a Mayweather v. Forrest fight, the style match up would have been very interesting.

18:50,



Say what you may but Baldomir was most noted for his chin, you sound ******ed questioning that of all things

Pay attention to commentating, Emanuel is actually impressed with Baldomir's speed. Not even trying to big up his speed at all but he's noticeably faster with his hands and feet than Angulo which is quite sad.

Baldomir fought in straight lines and his short 67' reach made it that much more difficult for him to cut the ring. He's greatest asset was his 'intensity' which allowed him to win decisions despite being notoriously pillow-handed.
Angulo (5'11 72' reach, 174 pounds) if you've watched any of his fights, is much better at cutting off the ring, which is what he would need to do against Floyd.

Also keep in mind you're talking up a guy who had 10 losses and 6 draws going into the Mayweather fight... and who wasn't remotely competitive against Floyd and Forrest (two opponents against whom he needed to cut the ring off effectively to stay competitive and which he clearly didn't know how to do).

Angulo was at least able to cut the ring on the fast-footed (and former Cuban amateur star) Lara, which speaks volumes about his ability to implement effective pressure.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Vernon Forrest (a career welterweight) had decent power but he wasn't a knockout artist by any means and he wouldn't stop Angulo (a career JMW) unless its from swelling.

And again, your an idiot if you think the short (5'7, 160 pound) Baldomir could take Mayweather's punches better than Angulo (5'11, 174 pounds) would.

Note: I would also have loved to see a Mayweather v. Forrest fight, the style match up would have been very interesting.



Baldomir fought in straight lines and his short 67' reach made it that much more difficult for him to cut the ring. He's greatest asset was his 'intensity' which allowed him to win decisions despite being notoriously pillow-handed.
Angulo (5'11 72' reach, 174 pounds) if you've watched any of his fights, is much better at cutting off the ring, which is what he would need to do against Floyd.

Also keep in mind you're talking up a guy who had 10 losses and 6 draws going into the Mayweather fight... and who wasn't remotely competitive against Floyd and Forrest (two opponents against whom he needed to cut the ring off effectively to stay competitive and which he clearly didn't know how to do).

Angulo was at least able to cut the ring on the fast-footed (and former Cuban amateur star) Lara, which speaks volumes about his ability to implement effective pressure.

No it doesn't, it says more about how overrated Lara is more than anything. Angulo follows you around, really nothing methodical about him. The only reason Lara got pounded on is because he doesn't get under punches, he would rather block and then slide out of there. Mayweather and Rigondeaux on the other hand know how to get under punches when their backs get close to the ropes and that allows them to quickly get into punching range and proceed dominating. Lara had to deal with the same struggles against Molina solely because of that as well.

No, Angulo would have quickly been taken out had he been hit with those monstrous punches Baldomir was hit with. Baldomir at least had some speed and was able to tag Forrest occasionally. Anyway, consider me an idiot then, Baldomir's chin > Angulo's.

[sugarsmosley]

i will ship my pants

[BafanaBafana]

No it doesn't, it says more about how overrated Lara is more than anything. Angulo follows you around, really nothing methodical about him. The only reason Lara got pounded on is because he doesn't get under punches, he would rather block and then slide out of there. Mayweather and Rigondeaux on the other hand know how to get under punches when their backs get close to the ropes and that allows them to quickly get into punching range and proceed dominating. Lara had to deal with the same struggles against Molina solely because of that as well.

More than anything I felt Lara couldn't get Angulo's respect throughout most of the fight and Angulo's size and high intensity style tired Lara down. Lara definitely isn't as good defensively on the inside as Mayweather, but the fact that Angulo was able to get him on the ropes in the first place still says a lot about his ability to cut the ring.

Again, Mayweather would have to work a lot more against Angulo than he did against Baldomir just to keep him at bay. Mayweather has never fought a 174 pound 5'11 high intensity fighter before, there's a reason why he avoided prime Margarito and Angulo is essentially a heavier Margarito (w/much more punching power too). Mayweather isn't as sharp as he used to be, he has been getting hit a lot more lately and if Angulo lands as many punches as Cotto, Guerrero, and Canelo did he could very well drop him.

No, Angulo would have quickly been taken out had he been hit with those monstrous punches Baldomir was hit with. Baldomir at least had some speed and was able to tag Forrest occasionally. Anyway, consider me an idiot then, Baldomir's chin > Angulo's.

Yes, you are an idiot. I'm glad you approve.

[Doctor_Tenma]

More than anything I felt Lara couldn't get Angulo's respect throughout most of the fight and Angulo's size and high intensity style tired Lara down. Lara definitely isn't as good defensively on the inside as Mayweather, but the fact that Angulo was able to get him on the ropes in the first place still says a lot about his ability to cut the ring.

Again, Mayweather would have to work a lot more against Angulo than he did against Baldomir just to keep him at bay. Mayweather has never fought a 174 pound 5'11 high intensity fighter before, there's a reason why he avoided prime Margarito and Angulo is essentially a heavier Margarito (w/much more punching power too). Mayweather isn't as sharp as he used to be, he has been getting hit a lot more lately and if Angulo lands as many punches as Cotto, Guerrero, and Canelo did he could very well drop him.



Yes, you are an idiot. I'm glad you approve.

No it doesn't, it was the fact that Lara pulls out with his right hand down to his waist, the fact that again he doesn't get under punches. Besides the straight left hand Lara failed to give Angulo anything else to worry about.

I'm truly convinced that your infatuation with Lara has you seeing things that aren't even there, even overrating Angulo who isn't even that good to begin with, Cintron outboxed him lets not forget. Now the bold, look who's excreting high levels of ******ity, Margarito's conditioning and durability allowed him to run after his opponents if willing, his ability to mix up his attack was far better, better hand and foot speed.