Are people still doubting Pacquiao's boxing skills?

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  • straightleft
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    #41
    Originally posted by Bronsky
    You can't be serious. I'm not saying Pac is a bad boxer. I think he has terrible technique but makes up for it with un conventional thinking and honestly his supreme conditioning let's him get away with A LOT. Not a terrible boxer just not a very good one.

    But to say the his style and his craft is the closest to SRL and SRR is completely absurd. When they're reflexes started failing them. Their boxing IQ held on tight. When Pacquiao natural athletic ability leaves HIM he's done for. I'm sorry but that has to be one of the worst statements I've read in a while. And again I'm not saying Pacquiao is a terrible boxer but he isn't a good one either. He is just a supremely Conditioned athletic specimen.
    Watch Pac vs Oscar and Floyd vs Oscar. Floyd was supposed to be a God in boxing but guess what who did much better in boxing Oscar, Floyd? LMAO!

    A former 106 fighter who jumped 3 weight from lightweight to fight Oscar at welterweight then Pac was boxing Oscar really good and gave him the worst beating in his entire career while Floyd barely won with SD then ducked the rematch running like a dog his tail inside his butt.
    Last edited by straightleft; 02-06-2014, 11:57 AM.

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    • J The UnBiased
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      #42
      Originally posted by straightleft
      Watch Pac vs Oscar and Floyd vs Oscar. Floyd was supposed to be a God in boxing but guess what who did much better in boxing Oscar, Floyd? LMAO!

      Pac was boxing Oscar and gave him the worst beating in his entire career while Floyd barely won then ducked the rematch his tail inside his butt.

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        #43
        Originally posted by straightleft
        Watch Pac vs Oscar and Floyd vs Oscar. Floyd was supposed to be a God in boxing but guess what who did much better in boxing Oscar, Floyd? LMAO!

        Pac was boxing Oscar and gave him the worst beating in his entire career while Floyd barely won then ducked the rematch his tail inside his butt.
        agree to disagree because you definitely won't see my point of view and those were 2 different Oscars. Im not talking about Floyd though. He has nothing to do with my opinion. I see what you're saying so i'll respect that opinion.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Bronsky
          agree to disagree because you definitely won't see my point of view and those were 2 different Oscars. Im not talking about Floyd though. He has nothing to do with my opinion. I see what you're saying so i'll respect that opinion.
          Oscar either at 147 or 154 by that time was already past his prime but Pac is a former flyweight champ and Floyd was not. Oscar was supposed to murder midget Pac and send him back to featherweight while Floyd supposed to give a past prime Oscar a beating then Floyd barely won a SD while Pac made Oscar quit and retired him for good.
          Last edited by straightleft; 02-06-2014, 12:05 PM.

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            #45
            Originally posted by J The UnBiased
            You just remind me how Floyd lured lightweight JMM to fight at catchweight welterweight only to be weight cheated. LMAO

            Catchweight in boxing is here for a reason. It will give the smaller fighter like lightweight Marquez a leveling field to a bigger fighter like welterweight Floyd but........lol
            Last edited by straightleft; 02-06-2014, 12:11 PM.

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              #46
              Originally posted by J The UnBiased
              But it also has something to do with Ring IQ, does it not? Maybe the other 2 fighters didn't come in with the "heavy 1-2" because they're smart enough to know not to over commit.....just a thought.
              nothing is engraved in stone, everything is a calculated risk

              pacquiao has made marquez miss the exact punch plenty of times as he comes in as he does(this time tho he ran into marquez's foot and got squared up), but if marquez has his guard down he lands a big left, it's a risk, but to his eyes worth it

              some guys dont mind the risk knowing that if they do land the payoff is huge, it's usually punchers, guys like mayweather and bradley fight according to their physical attributes, even if they land flush, nothing is bound to happen, esspecially with bradley, why he can go off 1 crappy right hand in a round like he shown vs marquez

              so nothing ******, you have your physical attributes, and you take your calculated risks accordingly
              pacquiao when he was younger was malnourished as hell, didn't have his speed, had only a flicker jab and a left hand, got by to high level on just that, the guy is definitely not ******
              Last edited by SplitSecond; 02-06-2014, 12:13 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Black Barty
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                Originally Posted by Flo_Raiden

                I see some people are trying to convince themselves that Bradley will simply outbox Pacquiao to a decision. Why is it that Pac's boxing ability always seems to be the most underrated/overlooked aspect in his game?
                Especially since he already gave the supposed better boxer Tim a boxing lesson in the first fight. Don't get me wrong, Pac turning up the heat and fighting Tim would be ideal if he wants to win the rematch more convincingly but Pac is also capable of outboxing him as well. People seem to forget that he's a pretty skilled boxer himself.

                When was the last time Manny outboxed someone he didn't have a vast speed advantage over? Just because he can run circles around plodders like Rios and Margarito doesn't mean he has great boxing ability.

                Everyone knows that lateral movement is the bane of Marquez's existence. If Manny was this great boxer you are making him out to be, he wouldn't have struggled with and got KO'd by Marquez.
                It only took four fights and over forty rounds for Marquez to do that though. You say he got KOd by Marquez as if it was his first time facing him.

                context pal. learn it. Manny has very underrated boxing skills because he chooses to abandon them in search of excitement, much like Erik Morales.



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                  #48
                  Originally posted by FloydsLostBalls
                  It only took four fights and over forty rounds for Marquez to do that though. You say he got KOd by Marquez as if it was his first time facing him.

                  context pal. learn it. Manny has very underrated boxing skills because he chooses to abandon them in search of excitement, much like Erik Morales.



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                  This is such a load of BS. Just admit his boxing skill is slightly above average. He fights the way he does because power is his best attribute and gives him the best chance to win. He could afford to box against Rios because rios is less skilled then he is.

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                    #49
                    Manny def has boxing skills. The problem here is that when he tried it vs Marquez he always looked bad doing it. This is why the 3rd fight looked the way it did because Manny tried to box with Marquez most of the fight and Marquez always got the better exchanges. He is better off being more aggressive vs certain fighters. Flatfoot fighters he can box their shoes off because they are simply flatfooted and those type of fighters usually can only fight in one direction. Sometimes Manny has to shy away from his boxing skills to win fights. He is usually far more effective being aggressive and letting his hands go.

                    Its funny because Bradley threw wide punches and stood directly in front of Manny for most of the fight and that is something you don't do. If Bradley is going to do something different in this next fight then he will have to use his feet to move around Manny and pick his spots to find openings. Manny cannot deal with a lot of movement well at all so this could help him out a lot. He just needs to tighten up his punches. He has the speed but sadly not the power.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      This is such a load of BS. Just admit his boxing skill is average, maybe slightly above. He fights the way he does because power is his best attribute and gives him the best chance to win.
                      his footwork is definitely something he learned, even with that speed of his, to get it to his level is impressive, his accuracy is also elite, usually the only way you can make him miss is by getting out of range altogether, no matter how good you think you can time his left, he reads very well where your head will go and follow

                      he's excellent in a firefight, something aquired again, besides maybe morales and that heavy jab of his to keep pacquiao off balance, no one has been able to stand with the man and win in an exchange of combos, very high level skill he has here

                      his head-movement may not be on sweet pea's level but it's likely the best today, that counter left he feeds to people is expertly timed too, another aquired skill

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